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They are implying that even though Apple is a wealthy consumer hardware company that has major spats with nVidia and Samsung, it doesn't always make economic se
by ayewo 3y ago
They are implying that even though Apple is a wealthy consumer hardware company that has major spats with nVidia and Samsung, it doesn't always make economic sense to make tools they might need in-house when they can simply buy them from a rival.
So rather than invest engineering resources to re-imagine the fridge, they can simply buy them from established manufacturers that make household appliances like Samsung, Sony etc.
- lern_too_spel 3y agoApple doesn't make silly charts saying they make better refrigerators.
- airstrike 3y agoBecause they don't sell refrigerators
- lern_too_spel 3y agoThe point of this thread is that even though Apple makes silly charts saying how good their hardware is at ML, they use products that their silly charts say aren't as good. There is no such hypocrisy if they use Samsung refrigerators.
- astrange 3y agoML inference and training are not the same task.
- smoldesu 3y ago...and doing either of those things with CUDA is impossible on Mac. Why? Because Apple burned their bridge with Nvidia and threw a temper tantrum, that's why. Now Nvidia can't support MacOS, even if they wanted. That's kinda the point of my original comment. Apple claims to know what's best, but contradict themselves through their own actions. We wouldn't be in awkward situations like this if Apple didn't staunchly box-out competitors and force customers to follow them or abandon the ecosystem. It's almost vindicating for people like me, who left MacOS because of these pointless decisions.
- lern_too_spel 3y agoThis plot is about general GPU performance, not pure inference. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/03/apple-unveils-m1-ultra-the-worlds-most-powerful-chip-for-a-personal-computer/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/03/apple-unveils-m1-ultr... Training the model requires inference for forward propagation, so even then, for your comment to be relevant, you'd need to find a plot that Apple uses to compare inference on quantized models versus Nvidia, which doesn't exist.
- MBCook 3y agoNot only that, don’t they buy display panels and maybe even storage or RAM chips from Samsung? Once two giant companies are dealing with each other it can get really complicated to cut everything off.