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Surprised to learn it's not tesla or comma with the first level 3 driving system approved for sale in the US. Would never have guessed Mercedes would beat them
by nomilk 3y ago
Surprised to learn it's not tesla or comma with the first level 3 driving system approved for sale in the US. Would never have guessed Mercedes would beat them to it.
- Hamuko 3y agoGiven Tesla's haphazard approach, even if they had a level 3 driving system available, they probably would just launch it without any approval.
- GuB-42 3y agoLevel 3 means that the driver is not at fault if something happens when the system is on. Tesla could conceivably launch a level 3 system without approval by taking full responsibility for any accident that happens when the system is running even when the driver is inattentive. Even Tesla is not crazy enough to do that.
- wilde 3y agoSlow and steady won this race.
- airstrike 3y agoAlso slow is smooth and smooth is fast
- yareal 3y ago[dead]
- nixass 3y ago> Surprised to learn it's not tesla Actually anyone even slightly interested in automotive industry isn't surprised by this. Tesla's tech is all smoke and mirrors for years now
- idopmstuff 3y agoI find this to be such a weird take - I just drove from San Diego -> LA with my Tesla doing 90+% of the freeway driving (I only have the free autosteer, so I have to handle exits, etc.). I have been in multiple rides through SF in friends' Teslas where they did not have to intervene at any point. Is Tesla FSD ready to replace human drivers? It is not. Is it smoke and mirrors? No - there is a mountain of evidence that it is a very capable product in many situations.
- bombcar 3y agoMany cars have autosteer at that level, once my silly minivan is on the freeway it can lane follow and adaptive cruise can go down to zero if necessary, and knows the speed limit and adjusts as necessary.
- 1123581321 3y agoYou have an Odyssey (the best minivan), I take it? I think that's the only one that can properly lane center. Other vans just have lane exit prevention. There are some differences between Honda's and Tesla's implementations that Tesla owners appreciate.
- KingOfCoders 3y agoTesla van owners?
- 1123581321 3y agoOwners of the 3, S, X or Y, I believe.
- onionisafruit 3y agoThe Cadillac of minivans, as they say in Get Shorty.
- bombcar 3y ago
- treypitt 3y agoIt's tough when you dogmatically refuse to use lidar! For Elmo, since the human eye doesn't have lidar, camera arrays are sufficient to achieve L3
- internet101010 3y agoSemi-related but how do lidar-based systems handle nearby cars that have lidar jammers installed?
- L-four 3y agoSemi-related how do lidar-based systems handle nearby cars with RPG launchers installed?
- egeozcan 3y agoThis is the rare moment where a random channel in YouTube beats Simpsons to speculate on one absurd scenario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7YVxLLIuGM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7YVxLLIuGM It's not exactly what you describe but it comes close.
- decafninja 3y agoYou need to buy a monthly subscription to the Premium CIWS package.
- kevin_thibedeau 3y agoTo be activated when the Mr Fusion is ready.
- CaptainOfCoit 3y agoUnrelated, but why would a car have a lidar jammer installed?
- nixgeek 3y ago
- infecto 3y agoIt’s not too surprising given the very specific conditions Mercedes runs in.
- flutas 3y agoYeah Currently - Only in CA and NV - Only below 40mph - Only on specifically mapped freeways ("only available on freeways that have been mapped by Mercedes") - There MUST be a vehicle in front of your car - "reasonable road conditions with readable markings and lines" - "clear weather" - Daytime only ("Drive Pilot can’t be used at night or in the rain, and the headlights and wipers must be set to auto for it to work. ") - Can't be in a construction zone https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/27/23892154/mercedes-benz-drive-pilot-autonomous-level-3-test https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/27/23892154/mercedes-benz-dr...
- asylteltine 3y ago[flagged]
- infecto 3y agoWhile FSD was over promised and under delivered. Your statement is pretty unsubstantiated.
- ricardobayes 3y agoInterested to see how it performs in Nevada, Botts' dots can be confusing to self-driving AI models learned on normal highway stripes/lane markings. The Vegas strip notably has very limited lane markings. The requirement to have a car in front of you is also very interesting.
- Miiko 3y ago> Only below 40mph > Only on specifically mapped freeways Those two seem to contradict each other - there are no freeways in CA or NV where you can (safely) drive below 40mph
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- asylteltine 3y agoI’m not surprised in the least. Mercedes is a company that actually knows how to make cars!
- sologoub 3y agoMercedes has a long history of innovation in driver assistance tech. For example: “ 1999: Mercedes introduced "Distronic", the first radar-assisted ACC,[8] on the Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W220)[9][10] and the CL-Class.[11]” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_cruise_control#:~:text=Mercedes%20Distronic%20Plus,-Mercedes%2DBenz%20S&text=In%201999%2C%20Mercedes%20introduced%20Distronic,)%20and%20the%20CL%2DClass https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_cruise_control#:~:t.... It was not as well marketed/hyped has the Tesla of today, but you could buy an S-class that would do much of the work for you in traffic well before you could buy a model S.
- newsclues 3y ago"Mercedes has a long history of innovation" Period. They are one of the companies that develops massively expensive flagship products that change the industry.
- voidfunc 3y agoYea Mercedes is more than luxury. Stuff they put in cars usually is 10 years ahead of being standard or options in most other vehicles.
- moogly 3y agoMercedes have always been at the forefront of car tech (except EVs), they're just very low key about it.