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Fun fact: CS education appears to be something that America is genuinely rather good at. >Researchers found that the average computer science student in the U.

Fun fact: CS education appears to be something that America is genuinely rather good at. >Researchers found that the average computer science student in the U.S. ranked higher than about 80 percent of students tested in China, India and Russia, Loyalka said. In contrast, the difference in scores among students in China, India and Russia was small and not statistically significant. >Researchers also compared a smaller pool of students from top-ranking institutions in each country. They found that the average student in a top computer science program in the U.S. also ranked higher than about 80 percent of students from top programs in China, India and Russia. But the top Chinese, Indian and Russian students scored comparably with the U.S. students from regular institutions, according to the research. https://news.stanford.edu/2019/03/19/comparing-skills-computer-science-undergraduates-internationally/ https://news.stanford.edu/2019/03/19/comparing-skills-comput...

bjornsing 3y ago
> CS education appears to be something that America is genuinely very good at. Here’s an alternative hypothesis: America seems genuinely very good at incentivizing bright young people to study CS.
ThinkBeat 3y ago
This does not match my own experience. Though my experience is about 15 years old, which may be a factor. I have met a large number of students with cs degrees in the US who never wrote a single line of code. I looked through the study and I was not able to find the test they were given. This is the organization that makes them: https://www.ets.org/pdfs/mft/comp-sci-test-description.pdf https://www.ets.org/pdfs/mft/comp-sci-test-description.pdf The phrasing for the US number is different but probably semantics: We also obtained assessment data on 6,847 seniors from a representative sample of CS programs in the United States. When it comes to the foreign countries the district term "tested" The sample size is drastically different: China: 678 India: 364 Russia: 551 US: 6837 Further Americans developed all tests. It would be interesting if the reverse tests were done. Russia developed one test, China one, India one, Then the sample group from this test would take each one seperatly and with good time to rest (days) between tests. If the results were equal to this first study. They might well be.

bjornsing 3y ago

> CS education appears to be something that America is genuinely very good at. Here’s an alternative hypothesis: America seems genuinely very good at incentivizing bright young people to study CS.

ThinkBeat 3y ago

This does not match my own experience. Though my experience is about 15 years old, which may be a factor. I have met a large number of students with cs degrees in the US who never wrote a single line of code. I looked through the study and I was not able to find the test they were given. This is the organization that makes them: https://www.ets.org/pdfs/mft/comp-sci-test-description.pdf https://www.ets.org/pdfs/mft/comp-sci-test-description.pdf The phrasing for the US number is different but probably semantics: We also obtained assessment data on 6,847 seniors from a representative sample of CS programs in the United States. When it comes to the foreign countries the district term "tested" The sample size is drastically different: China: 678 India: 364 Russia: 551 US: 6837 Further Americans developed all tests. It would be interesting if the reverse tests were done. Russia developed one test, China one, India one, Then the sample group from this test would take each one seperatly and with good time to rest (days) between tests. If the results were equal to this first study. They might well be.