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I like how Chinese do not want to get involved in protecting vessels, despite the fact that it’s their containers on board. Oh well, good old America has to sa
by whatever1 3y ago
I like how Chinese do not want to get involved in protecting vessels, despite the fact that it’s their containers on board.
Oh well, good old America has to save capitalism, yet again :)
- r00fus 3y agoWell, to be fair, the Houthi/Yemeni raids were started as a result of the Gaza occupation by Israel, and the US's failure to prevent massive war crimes in Gaza. Their demands were simply to restore full humanitarian aid (no bombing aid trucks!) or a ceasefire. Much easier than spending hundreds of millions in escorting every tanker headed to Suez.
- hotstickyballs 3y agoTrade typically involves a buyer and a seller.
- kasey_junk 3y agoChinese trade with the US doesn’t in large part go through the Suez Canal. Chinese/US trade mostly just goes directly across the Pacific.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoEurope?
- whatever1 3y agoThey are definitely not American containers. Yet everyone counts on America to save the day! Multipolar world my ass.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoChina would sooner reroute that get involved in conflicts so far from home. You're blaming people who aren't American for not being American enough. Not everything has to be resolved violently.
- bluGill 3y agoChina is involved by coming out aginst Isreal. Thus they support this terror campaign overall.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoAren't China consistently critical of violent aggression? I don't see how their being critical of Israeli violence is supporting terrorism elsewhere. China are one of the main players in trying to encourage peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Yemen. I feel like you're maybe trying to make a different point but avoiding saying it?
- bluGill 3y agoboth sides are violent here.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> Aren't China consistently critical of violent aggression? No, they frequently support violence when it’s internal suppression. They also support violence for e.g. taking Taiwan. The simple answer is China can have its cake and eat it too, so why not.
- AlecSchueler 3y agoSorry, I thought aggression on the international stage was more clearly implied. I understand there are issues in Taiwan, Tibet, Ugyyhur province. But they aren't invading countries around the world to involve themselves in other people's problems. I'm not sure what you're saying in your last paragraph. China have worked consistently with SA and Yemen to try to facilitate peace talks. They were opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are opposed to Israeli aggression.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> they aren't invading countries around the world to involve themselves in other people's problems China invaded and annexed Nepal (EDIT: Tibet). They’re also prominently involved in Central Asian and African politics. > not sure what you're saying in your last paragraph China depends on Middle Eastern oil. The Strait of Hormuz and Bab-el-Mandab closing pose an existential crisis to it. Letting America deal with the problem lets Beijing focus on messaging.
- Longlius 3y agoAFAIK China's navy isn't currently designed for such long-range deployments.
- dhoe 3y agoChina has a military base in Djibouti, a stone throw from Yemen. Its size is pretty impressive.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoIt's far better for America if they're the only ones capable of doing this.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> far better for America if they're the only ones capable of doing this No, we’d much rather the Saudis and Emiratis get their shit together.
- sudosysgen 3y agoNo Chinese ship has been targeted so far, to my knowledge, even if transiting.
- nindalf 3y agoI wonder what all those container ships contain. Possibly containers from the largest exporter in the world (China), heading to the second largest market in the world (Europe)?
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- csomar 3y agoI am guessing once these containers are shipped, it's someone else problem? Also, my money is on China will be happy to strike a deal with Iran/Houthis to secure its ship than to co-operate with the USA.
- Fatnino 3y agoShipping between China and New York is approximately the same distance going either via Suez or Panama. So removing Suez does not impact CN-US shipping. CN-EU gets hurt by this. And also ME oil going to Eastern US.