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How much more evil do you want Google to get before it’s problematic that they control the portal through which most people interact with the web (both browser/

How much more evil do you want Google to get before it’s problematic that they control the portal through which most people interact with the web (both browser/engine and search)? And why not use Firefox (or Safari/WebKit) already?

jorvi 3y ago
> And why not use Firefox (or Safari/WebKit) already? Mozilla these days seems more happy at pumping out tech-woke messages rather than being privacy first. Hell, they’ve refused to add an adblocker to their iOS browser for years now. 3rd party WebKit browsers are more rare, thus less well-developed. I’ve settled on using Brave.
- trinsic2 3y ago
  I like Brave, but I cant recommend it to my less-than-techie friends because of the bullshit that you have go through to disable (VPN, Wallet, advert related stuff, etc), which confuses people and gets in the way.
  - jorvi 3y ago
    Yeah I agree it is annoying, but ultimately browser dev needs to be paid for somehow. Brave does it via their extras. Mozilla mostly via their search deal with Google.
- phatskat 3y ago
  What are “tech-woke” messages?
  - jorvi 3y ago
    https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-seems-to-speak-using-creepy-gibberish-lunatic/td-p/16863 https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-...
    - godelski 3y ago
      > Today, I upgraded to Firefox 106. Upon opening Firefox, I received a very creepy message saying: > "Thank you for loving Firefox". > I really resent the presumptuousness of this message. I never told you I "loved" Firefox. How could anyone "love" a Web browser? It's a functional tool: a doorway to the Web. I am dying. This has to be one of the funniest things I've read all year.
      - lolc 3y ago
        Agreed that was fun to read. I can relate as sometimes I too get angry and rant at marketing copy. And really, why does Mozilla want me to pick a color for Firefox when I just want to use it? I guess I'll stop now.
        godelski 3y ago
        > why does Mozilla want me to pick a color for Firefox when I just want to use it? Guess I just don't care. Some people want it. I mean I change my theme. But there's defaults and I don't have to think about most of these things and they don't affect me or anyone I know, so why care? lol

jorvi 3y ago

> And why not use Firefox (or Safari/WebKit) already? Mozilla these days seems more happy at pumping out tech-woke messages rather than being privacy first. Hell, they’ve refused to add an adblocker to their iOS browser for years now. 3rd party WebKit browsers are more rare, thus less well-developed. I’ve settled on using Brave.

trinsic2 3y ago
I like Brave, but I cant recommend it to my less-than-techie friends because of the bullshit that you have go through to disable (VPN, Wallet, advert related stuff, etc), which confuses people and gets in the way.
- jorvi 3y ago
  Yeah I agree it is annoying, but ultimately browser dev needs to be paid for somehow. Brave does it via their extras. Mozilla mostly via their search deal with Google.
phatskat 3y ago
What are “tech-woke” messages?
- jorvi 3y ago
  https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-seems-to-speak-using-creepy-gibberish-lunatic/td-p/16863 https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-...
  - godelski 3y ago
    > Today, I upgraded to Firefox 106. Upon opening Firefox, I received a very creepy message saying: > "Thank you for loving Firefox". > I really resent the presumptuousness of this message. I never told you I "loved" Firefox. How could anyone "love" a Web browser? It's a functional tool: a doorway to the Web. I am dying. This has to be one of the funniest things I've read all year.
    - lolc 3y ago
      Agreed that was fun to read. I can relate as sometimes I too get angry and rant at marketing copy. And really, why does Mozilla want me to pick a color for Firefox when I just want to use it? I guess I'll stop now.
      - godelski 3y ago
        > why does Mozilla want me to pick a color for Firefox when I just want to use it? Guess I just don't care. Some people want it. I mean I change my theme. But there's defaults and I don't have to think about most of these things and they don't affect me or anyone I know, so why care? lol