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that's just the "Launcher" app AOSP comes with. most folks using AOSP (commercially) use a different launcher for their own needs

by twism 3y ago

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
It's part of AOSP- is this it in their git tree? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Launcher/ https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Laun...
- twism 3y ago
  yes and so is the "Settings" app. not sure i understand your point
  - refulgentis 3y ago
    I'm honestly surprised at the intensity with which people are going to bat for this (context: used to work on Android and generally have a dim view of the open source-ness https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725926 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725926) If I'm understanding you both right, I'd say their point is: - it's not very open source if the only thing you can rely on is "API shim on top of Linux kernel", there's to some approximation no phone app, no launcher, no Settings, no browser. Those are hard! - It's doubly so if _the apps for this open source OS regularly rely on GMS APIs_, which require a commercial relationship with Google. and your point is: - There _is_ a phone app, launcher, Settings, and browser. No one said the OS and a _full modern mobile application suite_ are open source. - It is very good that the OS is open source and that shouldn't be discounted just because its non-trivial to get your own distro up and running. - completely putting words in your mouth now :) - the GMS APIs are things that _should_ be vendored, it'd be worse if Google's location tracking was baked into the OS. Also, vendors can provide shims that allow apps to call GMS APIs "headers" even if the impementer isn't GMS
    - twism 3y ago
      AOSP does not come with GMS
      - refulgentis 3y ago
        Correct
- charcircuit 3y ago
  That's the one from Android 2.1. The one from Android 7+ is Launcher3. https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:packages/apps/Launcher3/ https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/...

that's just the "Launcher" app AOSP comes with. most folks using AOSP (commercially) use a different launcher for their own needs

by twism 3y ago

that's just the "Launcher" app AOSP comes with. most folks using AOSP (commercially) use a different launcher for their own needs

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

It's part of AOSP- is this it in their git tree? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Launcher/ https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Laun...

twism 3y ago
yes and so is the "Settings" app. not sure i understand your point
- refulgentis 3y ago
  I'm honestly surprised at the intensity with which people are going to bat for this (context: used to work on Android and generally have a dim view of the open source-ness https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725926 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725926) If I'm understanding you both right, I'd say their point is: - it's not very open source if the only thing you can rely on is "API shim on top of Linux kernel", there's to some approximation no phone app, no launcher, no Settings, no browser. Those are hard! - It's doubly so if _the apps for this open source OS regularly rely on GMS APIs_, which require a commercial relationship with Google. and your point is: - There _is_ a phone app, launcher, Settings, and browser. No one said the OS and a _full modern mobile application suite_ are open source. - It is very good that the OS is open source and that shouldn't be discounted just because its non-trivial to get your own distro up and running. - completely putting words in your mouth now :) - the GMS APIs are things that _should_ be vendored, it'd be worse if Google's location tracking was baked into the OS. Also, vendors can provide shims that allow apps to call GMS APIs "headers" even if the impementer isn't GMS
  - twism 3y ago
    AOSP does not come with GMS
    - refulgentis 3y ago
      Correct
charcircuit 3y ago
That's the one from Android 2.1. The one from Android 7+ is Launcher3. https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:packages/apps/Launcher3/ https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/...