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that's how it's meant to be ... other companies that want to use android on their bespoke hardware need to write their own drivers/software/talk to their on ser

• 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  AOSP has a lot of Google in it- the first thing you'll see is a big anachronistic Google search bar.
  • twism 3y ago
    that's just the "Launcher" app AOSP comes with. most folks using AOSP (commercially) use a different launcher for their own needs
    • 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
      It's part of AOSP- is this it in their git tree? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Launcher/ https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Laun...
      • twism 3y ago
        yes and so is the "Settings" app. not sure i understand your point
        • refulgentis 3y ago
          I'm honestly surprised at the intensity with which people are going to bat for this (context: used to work on Android and generally have a dim view of the open source-ness https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725926 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725926) If I'm understanding you both right, I'd say their point is: - it's not very open source if the only thing you can rely on is "API shim on top of Linux kernel", there's to some approximation no phone app, no launcher, no Settings, no browser. Those are hard! - It's doubly so if _the apps for this open source OS regularly rely on GMS APIs_, which require a commercial relationship with Google. and your point is: - There _is_ a phone app, launcher, Settings, and browser. No one said the OS and a _full modern mobile application suite_ are open source. - It is very good that the OS is open source and that shouldn't be discounted just because its non-trivial to get your own distro up and running. - completely putting words in your mouth now :) - the GMS APIs are things that _should_ be vendored, it'd be worse if Google's location tracking was baked into the OS. Also, vendors can provide shims that allow apps to call GMS APIs "headers" even if the impementer isn't GMS
          • twism 3y ago
            AOSP does not come with GMS
            • refulgentis 3y ago
              Correct
      • charcircuit 3y ago
        That's the one from Android 2.1. The one from Android 7+ is Launcher3. https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:packages/apps/Launcher3/ https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/...
• lupusreal 3y ago
  An open source operating system for phones is meant to have no dialer? Absurd.
  • twism 3y ago
    used to be... but android is a full fledged OS in a lot of things that are not phones (TVs, cars, streaming sticks, etc)
    • hnfong 3y ago
      Heh, by your argument a full fledged desktop OS doesn't need to support keyboards because hey, a lot of desktop systems don't have keyboards (touchscreen kioks), doesn't need to support sound (not everyone wants it), doesn't need to support mouse input, doesn't need to support ethernet, doesn't need to support displays (headless mode). I mean, this line of reasoning is ridiculous. Proper full fledge OSes support the main use cases, not the lowest common denominator.
      • twism 3y ago
        not close. Does an Amazon Firestick need a phone dialer? a TV need the contacts app. does your toaster need gMail? You are still in the mindset that Android == phone. Which isn't true. Android (a full fledged OS) supports all the things you mentioned