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The biggest issue is in the US, most phones are iPhones, so most people are using iMessage by default. Because of Apple's actions, this has led to android user

The biggest issue is in the US, most phones are iPhones, so most people are using iMessage by default. Because of Apple's actions, this has led to android users being ridiculously ostracized and discriminated again[0][1]. It's not that there are not alternatives, it's that iPhone users are unlikely to switch to those alternatives, leaving Android users no choice but to continue to be discriminated against if they want to talk to the majority. This a uniquely US thing. It's very strange. [0]https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-teens-dread-the-green-text-bubble-11641618009 https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-... [1]https://www.techdirt.com/2015/02/12/green-bubbles-how-apple-quietly-gets-iphone-users-to-hate-android-users/ https://www.techdirt.com/2015/02/12/green-bubbles-how-apple-...

IshKebab 3y ago
It kind of makes sense though. The dominant messaging app has always varied by region. The US is just really unlucky that the one that won there happens to be owned by Apple. And I say "unlucky" - it's not really luck. iMessage could only ever dominate in the US really because iPhones are very popular there and because SMS is free. In most of the world iPhones aren't nearly as dominant so nobody would use iMessage or they wouldn't be able to talk to half their friends, and there was a much bigger incentive to just ditch SMS-related systems entirely.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  I think part of the issue is Apple didn't really indicate to users they were using iMessage, so most people thought they were just using SMS anyway.
mattgreenrocks 3y ago
People are so weird: it used to be that using the Internet a lot was seen as anti-social, now everyone's addicted to phones and if your message bubbles aren't the right color you're the weird one. It's just a stupid chat app. It's completely awful we're strong-armed into having 6 different chat clients that send text messages because of gate-keeping. Chat has been fully commoditized since about 2000 or so.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > it used to be that using the Internet a lot was seen as anti-social, now everyone's addicted to phonesv This is so true, I think about this a lot sometimes. As someone growing up in the 90s who was considered weird for finding the internet amazing, I'm online substantially less than many of those people who made a big deal about it back then.

IshKebab 3y ago

It kind of makes sense though. The dominant messaging app has always varied by region. The US is just really unlucky that the one that won there happens to be owned by Apple. And I say "unlucky" - it's not really luck. iMessage could only ever dominate in the US really because iPhones are very popular there and because SMS is free. In most of the world iPhones aren't nearly as dominant so nobody would use iMessage or they wouldn't be able to talk to half their friends, and there was a much bigger incentive to just ditch SMS-related systems entirely.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
I think part of the issue is Apple didn't really indicate to users they were using iMessage, so most people thought they were just using SMS anyway.

mattgreenrocks 3y ago

People are so weird: it used to be that using the Internet a lot was seen as anti-social, now everyone's addicted to phones and if your message bubbles aren't the right color you're the weird one. It's just a stupid chat app. It's completely awful we're strong-armed into having 6 different chat clients that send text messages because of gate-keeping. Chat has been fully commoditized since about 2000 or so.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> it used to be that using the Internet a lot was seen as anti-social, now everyone's addicted to phonesv This is so true, I think about this a lot sometimes. As someone growing up in the 90s who was considered weird for finding the internet amazing, I'm online substantially less than many of those people who made a big deal about it back then.