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All of that is fine, the problem is that most places with shared space will have people not working on the same project in that room. Instead everybody is worki
by Tor3 3y ago
All of that is fine, the problem is that most places with shared space will have people not working on the same project in that room. Instead everybody is working on different projects, and they may be in Teams meetings and talking and talking about things with zero interest for you, and that can't possibly be productive. Even worse if you're in an office with one guy constantly on the 'phone on customer support or whatnot..
- shiroiuma 3y agoHow about when they put the software team right next to the sales team? This is exactly the problem with open-plan offices: they always do really stupid stuff like this, putting mostly-quiet teams very close to very talkative and noisy teams, with no barrier between them. Then everyone wants to work from home where at least they won't be tormented by listening to the obnoxious sales guy yap on the phone all day and can have their pet keep them company.
- zeristor 3y agoDid you have the head of sales ringing a bell for a sale every few hours too?
- jusssi 3y agoTo me, this seems like a positive problem.
- Aeolun 3y agoI think what ends up happening is that you sell a lot of stuff that gets steadily worse over time.
- funcDropShadow 3y agoOf course it is good, if the sales team succeeds. But it is bad if that means that the developers are unable to do their work.
- zeristor 3y agoDepends how you feel about $NOISE
- ddol 3y agoAirbnb was open plan (it still is, I’m just not there anymore). They also have an amazing Food team who would occasionally, randomly, bake treats for us (this is relevant, I promise). There was no sales bell, but there was an outage gong. Any time we had an outage affecting the “Book It” flow and revenue stopped flowing that gong rang out. Hearing the gong meant engineers would abruptly leave meetings or lunch to come help fix the issue. As we scaled and hit the limits of various systems we had periods where the gong rang out semi-regularly (a few times per month). These were hard times for engineers. Soon, engineering started to push back on Product requests, took the time to re-architect and build better systems, and calm was achieved. Months went by without hearing the gong ring out, then years passed. People joined the company and got promoted, never having heard it ring. Until one day in 2018. I was working near a pod of project managers, and I hear the gong. Like Pavlov’s dog, it triggers an immediate wave of anxiety in me: something is very wrong. But my blissfully unaware PM colleagues have no idea, it’s the first time they’ve ever heard the gong. One lady looks up from her laptop and asks: “oooh, did the Food team make cookies?”
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- kragen 3y agothis kind of content-free hate has no place on hacker news
- jwoq9118 3y agoLove this story! As someone that joined the industry remote, its stuff like this I sometimes worry im missing out on.