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Oh man it was super-disappointing and the end of my willingness to buy WoTC 5E. You'd be better off with the originals from DriveThru.

musicale 3y ago
It was a bit thin, but I still had fun playing! I will be sad if they don't develop it further. Then again, I'd kind of like to see more of their legendary forgotten settings like Dark Sun...
- Sander_Marechal 3y ago
  They will never release another Dark Sun. It is waaay to vile and racist. Personally I love the setting, but there is zero change they could publish it without some serious backlash from a lot of people ... for who that content is not intended. Let's put it that way. If they ever release something with the name Dark Sun, it will be that in name only. Disconnected from the original. Even worse than Spelljammer.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    racist? really? more than Tolken... or literally anything else D&D related? sounds like another tumblr "anything I don't like is 'problematic'" take.
    - webmaven 3y ago
      Yes, more than Tolkien. It isn't just racism and racist stereotypes (DS halflings as "jungle primitives" as one example), but a history of extensive genocides, widespread cannibalism, pervasive oppression and slavery, systematic forced breeding to create the Mul player race... All wrapped up in a very violent grim-meathook-future milieu. Any one of these could be fixed without neutering the setting, but probably not all (or even most) of them at once. Even with the most respectful approach to the material, by the time you were done fixing, it just wouldn't be Dark Sun.
disgruntledphd2 3y ago
> Oh man it was super-disappointing and the end of my willingness to buy WoTC 5E. You'd be better off with the originals from DriveThru. I mean 5e is less broken than 2e so maybe it would be OK (that's not a high bar, to be fair). Hmmm, thanks for the feedback, will try to resist the urge to splurge.

musicale 3y ago

It was a bit thin, but I still had fun playing! I will be sad if they don't develop it further. Then again, I'd kind of like to see more of their legendary forgotten settings like Dark Sun...

Sander_Marechal 3y ago
They will never release another Dark Sun. It is waaay to vile and racist. Personally I love the setting, but there is zero change they could publish it without some serious backlash from a lot of people ... for who that content is not intended. Let's put it that way. If they ever release something with the name Dark Sun, it will be that in name only. Disconnected from the original. Even worse than Spelljammer.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  racist? really? more than Tolken... or literally anything else D&D related? sounds like another tumblr "anything I don't like is 'problematic'" take.
  - webmaven 3y ago
    Yes, more than Tolkien. It isn't just racism and racist stereotypes (DS halflings as "jungle primitives" as one example), but a history of extensive genocides, widespread cannibalism, pervasive oppression and slavery, systematic forced breeding to create the Mul player race... All wrapped up in a very violent grim-meathook-future milieu. Any one of these could be fixed without neutering the setting, but probably not all (or even most) of them at once. Even with the most respectful approach to the material, by the time you were done fixing, it just wouldn't be Dark Sun.

disgruntledphd2 3y ago

> Oh man it was super-disappointing and the end of my willingness to buy WoTC 5E. You'd be better off with the originals from DriveThru. I mean 5e is less broken than 2e so maybe it would be OK (that's not a high bar, to be fair). Hmmm, thanks for the feedback, will try to resist the urge to splurge.