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Also their recent move to 3-book + DM screen sets is really annoying. They did it first with Spelljammer's rerelease into 5e and I think the oceanic thirst for
by rtkwe 3y ago
Also their recent move to 3-book + DM screen sets is really annoying. They did it first with Spelljammer's rerelease into 5e and I think the oceanic thirst for Spelljammer content might have sent them the wrong signal about the popularity of the actual content which was pretty thin for the amount you paid for it with notable missing rules like long range travel... for the space setting.
- disgruntledphd2 3y agoOMG they rereleased spelljammer? Brb, gotta go buy some DND books. Which is to say, I am clearly part of the problem here.
- SSLy 3y agoE-mail me at the profile, don’t give wotc money.
- sklargh 3y agoOh man it was super-disappointing and the end of my willingness to buy WoTC 5E. You'd be better off with the originals from DriveThru.
- musicale 3y agoIt was a bit thin, but I still had fun playing! I will be sad if they don't develop it further. Then again, I'd kind of like to see more of their legendary forgotten settings like Dark Sun...
- Sander_Marechal 3y agoThey will never release another Dark Sun. It is waaay to vile and racist. Personally I love the setting, but there is zero change they could publish it without some serious backlash from a lot of people ... for who that content is not intended. Let's put it that way. If they ever release something with the name Dark Sun, it will be that in name only. Disconnected from the original. Even worse than Spelljammer.
- red-iron-pine 3y agoracist? really? more than Tolken... or literally anything else D&D related? sounds like another tumblr "anything I don't like is 'problematic'" take.
- webmaven 3y agoYes, more than Tolkien. It isn't just racism and racist stereotypes (DS halflings as "jungle primitives" as one example), but a history of extensive genocides, widespread cannibalism, pervasive oppression and slavery, systematic forced breeding to create the Mul player race... All wrapped up in a very violent grim-meathook-future milieu. Any one of these could be fixed without neutering the setting, but probably not all (or even most) of them at once. Even with the most respectful approach to the material, by the time you were done fixing, it just wouldn't be Dark Sun.
- disgruntledphd2 3y ago> Oh man it was super-disappointing and the end of my willingness to buy WoTC 5E. You'd be better off with the originals from DriveThru. I mean 5e is less broken than 2e so maybe it would be OK (that's not a high bar, to be fair). Hmmm, thanks for the feedback, will try to resist the urge to splurge.
- giantrobot 3y ago5E Spelljammer only superficially resembles the 2E Spelljammer. As a fan of the original Spelljammer the 5E version is a massive disappointment.
- pavel_lishin 3y agoThe combat system is pretty piss-poor, too - to the point where many people have released their own, better, rulesets for combat to address these problems.
- rtkwe 3y agoSpelljammer combat? You have any links to that my wife is running a Spelljammer campaign right now and those might be useful to her. Over all yes the whole thing came across as very weak and half hearted but of course it's freaking Spelljamming so it still sold very well despite being a weak product.
- pavel_lishin 3y agoHere you go: https://www.dmsguild.com/product/407191/Spelljammer-5E-Theater-of-the-Mind-Ship-Combat-Rules https://www.dmsguild.com/product/407191/Spelljammer-5E-Theat... (It's pay what you want, so you can pay zero if you want to try it out.) This was written by a DM friend of mine who also runs an excellent podcast, if y'all are into that :)
- ishanmahapatra 3y agoWhich podcast?