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Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?
This is happening in Germany.
My friend, living in London, sold information about my crypto investment to some high profile gang.
Since then, for the last 5 months, I had been followed, and observed 24/7, sometimes intimidated.
All my electronic equipment got hacked, computers, mobile phones, I previously asked about it here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37506194
I believe their plan is to kidnap me silently without any witness and police involvement, extort me, and then kill me. Just disappear me. I also believe I avoided 2 attempts already.
When I hired private security, they lasted for 3 days before they got bribed and changed sides.
I don't care about the money anymore at this point, I would just happily give it all out away just to get my old life back, I just want to make it out alive at this point. But like Dr. Strange, I am calculating scenarios, and every one of them ends with me being dead.
If I give up and give them the money, they will kill me to erase the trace and the threat, in case I changed my mind later.
If I just burn the money, I can't prove that I don't have more. Maybe I could, but it's more involved.
Looks like the only state when I live is when I have the money and they chase me for it.
To make matters worse, because of miscommunication, they may think I have x30 more money than I do. I think my conversation with criminal lawyer got snooped through my hacked laptop, because things around me have changed after this talk, they become more proffesional. I later found some jornal logs that say something about device being configured in remote headset mode, or something like that. Anyway, the lawyer asked how much is at the stake, a million or more, but I was too lazy to calculate, so I just replied "I don't know how much the bitcoin is, I have between x and y" but didn't specify I meant bicoins, so now they may think I have many millions to steal.
The police won't help, they want evidence or the crime, which I don't have, it's rather hard to prove that somebody is following you. In regard to hacked equipment, their response is to just buy a new one.
I am so tired and exhausted at this point, with so much stress and sleepless nights, I look now like a heavy drug user. This whole thing feels like a crash with a freight train in slow motion.
I have no options really, I can't run, because I'm being followed, and because they have many friends and will find me easily. Besides, with life in 21 century is all digital, and these records are easy to obtain when you pay someone. If I stay, I make myself an easy target. Looks like the only option is to kill myself, same result, less suffering. This is philosophical of course, I am not intending to kill myself, and especially not over ducking money.
So, what the duck do I do to make it out alive out of this?
Edit: heckraiser suggested if I could pay them off. I tried.
They hacked my Andorid phone, which I noticed because it ate crazy amounts of battery, somthing like 7% in 10 minutes, I went back to dummy phones, so only used that one for certain tasks. When I taped out the cameras, usage went down, but still a lot. Weeks later I typed the message offering a deal to finish this, the result was the phone stopped eating the battery and went back to normal, they just removed the hack to erase the evidence. They don't want any deals, they want it all and to kill me.
- idontwantthis 3y agoHave you told someone who loves you about this? Parents, or old friends?
- HTMIOA 3y agoYes spoken with my family, but nothing that would better my situation.
- heckraiser 3y agoThat sounds terrifying. The being followed and snooped upon is actually an increasingly common phenomena, everywhere. You won’t like my answer I’m afraid, you are discovering how fragile the lie of modernity is. You would would be better off angry than scared. Be crazy, not complicit. A time for you to get serious (reign it all in.) Wealthy and famous people do not live normal lives, everyone is trying to take a little piece of them, and the complicit denial of conventional society will help you little. Find a way to lock up your cash for five to ten years so you cannot betray yourself. Keep a journal and any other records of suspicious activities in case you do have enough to convince authorities. Live a vigilant self determined life first above all else.
- HTMIOA 3y agoIt's rather hard for a single person, and a nerd at that, to be up against a proffesional gang. What the hell would I do anyway? And seriously, duck the money, if I had a choice of being rich and to live with the security, I would rather have normal life and be free.
- heckraiser 3y agoOh take things very seriously! I’m a nerd, I’ve been gang stalked (New York). Went on for years of varying degrees of threat. I gained about ten pounds of muscles and changed most social habits. What I question is your “rationale.” You are spoiled and coddled in a society which overlooks you. Being noticed is the untowardly phenomenon, not just your money. You would be only so lucky if you could pay them off. And that would be that. Think productively not as prey. Have you received outward indication? Take responsibility for yourself as a man (advice I risk negative karma for offering). Keep a journal (they're good for you anyway). Here you can log times and places. Most of Europe is now blanketed in cameras, any conversations with authorities should include documentation, especially written statements. Authorities can blow off your paranoid recount, their competence is judged through the lens of paperwork. Due diligence and all. Writing will also help you maintain your own coherent narrative when the truth is so murky others will simply suggest you need psychological help. Wake up. The world you lived in and love is a comforting lie. Your vigilance and paranoid awareness will only draw you deeper into the modern psycho-drama. The “others”, whoever they are will never again leave you alone. Don’t be bitter or scared, be proactive.