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A layoff gives managers the opportunity to fire people who they've wanted to fire for a while. The firings within WotC were likely opportunistic and not about
by jmcgough 3y ago
A layoff gives managers the opportunity to fire people who they've wanted to fire for a while. The firings within WotC were likely opportunistic and not about trying to change the direction or strength of the company. Doing it as part of larger layoffs gives an excuse for it and in theory mitigates drama.
- el-dude-arino 3y agoAh you beat me to it. Layoffs like this mitigate the drama for sure, but also mitigates legal liability, which just goes to show you; you're a fool to remain loyal to the company. A lot of the people fired were rated highly in their performance reviews, I'm sure. But if you're too ambitious or criticized the boss for making a mistake or just looked at him wrong... you're gone. My advice: - Always be interviewing - Never stay somewhere longer than 2-4 years - Don't take on extra work or go above and beyond - Try to work two or more remote jobs - Kiss your boss' ass - Never take a stand on anything
- jen729w 3y ago> Try to work two or more remote jobs What, routinely? No.
- el-dude-arino 3y agoIt's not as hard as you think, especially if you do contract work on the side while you have a full time job.
- jen729w 3y agoSo now you have three jobs? You work too much.
- mock-possum 3y agoHow much money do you need?
- el-dude-arino 3y agoEnough to tell my boss to get f*cked
- runnr_az 3y agoYou’re likely mistaken about the value they’re contributing. Corporate America can be a heartless place, for sure, but you’d be surprised how hard it is to straight up fire underperforming white collar workers.
- Loughla 3y agoThe difficulty in firing is directly related to how risk averse (lawsuit averse) HR is.
- mynameisnoone 3y agoThere is no heart or soul, rhyme or reason in it. It's all about who's friends with who, and each particular cult of marketing of apparent utility.
- id00 3y ago> Never take a stand on anything "If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?" (c)
- HeWhoLurksLate 3y agoagree, I'd rather be a professional with a shorter lifespan than a henchman/goon that can survive anything
- refulgentis 3y agoThis is a little too jaded, but in all seriousness younger me, everything except the 2+ remote jobs is true. Always ask yourself _does my manager want this, or do I think my manager will want this when I'm done with it?_. Also, you never take a stand on anything in the sense that _you never want to be the only person in the room advocating for something longer than a couple sentences_. Adults are just as nasty as middle schoolers, but to your face, they won't say a thing. They are old enough to have learned its easy and feels good to shit on other people, and it is hard and feels bad to have a Discussion(tm).
- eutropia 3y agoNah. Hold yourself and those around you to high standards and you’ll develop a keen sense for when people aren’t doing the same. That helps you avoid the shitty companies and bosses that make these coping mechanisms seem necessary.
- michaelcampbell 3y agoThe "48 laws of power" gets a lot of (perhaps well deserved) shade, but there are some insights there, if your post is any indication.
- nunez 3y agoMichael Hobbes and Peter Shamshiri did a really interesting deep dive into this book and its author in their podcast "If Books Could Kill". Recommended listening. TL;DR: It is theorized that the author (Robert Greene) studied classics and wanted to write a book about influential leaders throughout history, but the only way to get such a book green-lit by a publisher was to wrap the history around a "self-help for men" context, which naturally gravitates towards building empires and making more money. This is why, like many self-help books, the advice is dubious, but unlike almost all self-help books, the historical anecdotes are extremely correct.
- aardvark179 3y agoThis feels like a self fulfilling thing. You get laid off, so you start following these rules and you are even more likely to get laid off. I can honestly say I not only don’t follow these rules, I think I follow almost their direct opposite, and despite many around me being laid off I never have been even when voluntary redundancy was being offered and applying for it, I have more than enough money to walk away from a job if I want to. If you find every workplace so hateful that you must follow these rules have you considered that the problem might actually be you?
- el-dude-arino 3y agoI'm glad you've found fulfilling places to work, but I think you might have a bit of survivorship-bias.
- throwaway743 3y agoYeah, your comment above really hit home for me. Had the exact experience and younger me could've used that advice. Things are good now, but yeah
- rqtwteye 3y ago"A layoff gives managers the opportunity to fire people who they've wanted to fire for a while" This may be true sometimes but I have seen plenty of layoffs where whole projects/departments got axed based on not very good information. A lot of C*O people make these decisions based on very flimsy information.
- ProAm 3y agoDo you have any evidence this is what is happening? Why didnt it occur with the first round?
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- hatenberg 3y agoThat would be true if it was managers actually making the decision who to fire. It's increasingly centralized all the way to the top.
- internet101010 3y agoYeah it means no requirement to do a PIP.