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PVC piping is heavily used in water and sewage applications. It replaced the previously aging cast iron plumbing. What’s going to replace PVC if production ban
by xyst 3y ago
PVC piping is heavily used in water and sewage applications. It replaced the previously aging cast iron plumbing. What’s going to replace PVC if production ban is in effect?
- sokoloff 3y agoIt’s also pretty heavily used in electrical conduit and flex. Underground and outdoor flex may not have ready substitutes listed/approved and added to NEC for a while.
- Supermancho 3y agoIn the northern part of the US, there's no good alternative for protecting buildings from the elements. You have brick, glass, wood, and vinyl...which is the nice one. It has to be plastic (for windows) to expand and contract, but be easy to replace. It has to be moisture/ice proof. It has to be durable to impact (due to wind and storm). Brick is fine, until it breaks down and is very poor for temperature control.
- Kirby64 3y agoThe north doesn’t use concrete based products like hardieboard? It’s better than wood siding and pretty much looks identical to wood siding. No issues with temp control, and essentially never rots besides needing a repaint every …. 10-15 years maybe. Also, I thought fiberglass windows are a reasonable alternative to vinyl windows?
- systems_glitch 3y agoCast iron :P Seriously, aside from requiring more skill to work with and not surviving well with large DC leakage currents (think: DC traction power from light rail), it's got a lot of advantages. Plastic piping in general is already disallowed in a lot of commercial construction. ABS is a valid alternative in some parts of the country, but is often already banned from being used in even residential construction in places where it gets very cold in the winter, as it shatters easily.
- Ekaros 3y agoI would say weight is an other drawback... At larger diameters segments get heavy and that brings own risks. Including things like stress injuries for workers.
- systems_glitch 3y agoUgh, yeah, it can be a bear. Try dropping a 3-storey stack that's freeze fractured and ready to come apart on you :/
- legitster 3y ago> aside from requiring more skill to work with This is an understatement. This would essentially kill off plumbing as a DIY task and be a huge boon for professional plumbers.
- kevin_thibedeau 3y agoCopper is perfectly viable for interior small diameter pipe. Home owners aren't typically DIYing a cast iron main sewer.
- mentalpiracy 3y agoCopper piping is unfortunately several orders of magnitude more susceptible to corrosion from a variety of sources: water acidity, high temperatures, and exposure to common household chemicals like bleach and drain cleaner.
- amluto 3y agoAlso CO2. Boiler condensate will eat copper pipe very quickly. And some well water and reverse-osmosis-filtered water is not so friendly to copper.
- systems_glitch 3y agoRemember that most cast iron isn't like it was for hundreds of years, nowadays there's no-hub and even if you do need to use hub and spigot, lots of folks use the neoprene bushing instead of oakum...and if you're still using oakum, you can usually use a modern sealant that comes in a caulk tube, instead of molten lead.
- stefan_ 3y agoNothing will, we are just fine with PVC as long as the pollution happens elsewhere.
- noname120 3y agoOutsourcing production
- petre 3y agoOther plastics? HDPE? PEX? Corrugated HDPE and is already replacing PVC for underground drainage pipes.