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Right, but would you want a separate CI platform just for iOS? Maybe if you were only developing iOS and macOS apps it would be attractive. I'm also not convinc

Right, but would you want a separate CI platform just for iOS? Maybe if you were only developing iOS and macOS apps it would be attractive. I'm also not convinced Apple will continue to support or how much Apple churn it will introduce. It also doesn't have a proper web interface and Xcode is already one of my least favourite tools, so I'm not keen on the prospect of relying on it even more than I already do.

beeboobaa 3y ago
> Right, but would you want a separate CI platform just for iOS You already don't have a choice. The iOS build tooling only runs on MacOS. So your current options are: 1. Run all of your CI infra on MacOS (literal insanity) 2. Have dedicated mac minis just for building iOS apps (waste of $$$ and additional maintenance hassle) 3. Use a build cloud (somehow even more expensive than option 2)
- sdflhasjd 3y ago
  What I meant by platform is GitLab/GitHub/Teamcity/etc. You can at least use the same CI platform for all your builds, you "just" need some macOS runners/build agents to do iOS builds. Xcode cloud is another platform that basically nothing integrates with - an additional shit option to add to the existing pile of shit options.
  - basicallybones 3y ago
    I'll take the opposite position. A few weeks ago, I migrated my CI/CD pipelines from GitHub Actions to Google Cloud Build, which was a meaningful improvement for me. But I left my mobile pipelines on GitHub Actions due to the lack of MacOS environments in GCB. I have not yet looked into the details, but this new Xcode Cloud free tier might be a godsend for me. GitHub Actions sucks, and their on-demand MacOS runners are crazy expensive. This will let me flip over to Xcode Cloud for Apple builds, save the $0.16/min I spend on GitHub Actions MacOS runners, and probably have a much better experience overall. The web stack gets built on GCB and deployed to GCP, and the mobile apps would get built on Xcode cloud and deployed to the App Store.
isodev 3y ago
> separate CI platform just for iOS? What else is there? For web things I already have some GitHub actions taking care of the work.
- kojoru 3y ago
  Github Actions totally has MacOS runners: https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-github-hosted-runners/about-github-hosted-runners/about-github-hosted-runners#supported-runners-and-hardware-resources https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-github-hosted-runne...

beeboobaa 3y ago

> Right, but would you want a separate CI platform just for iOS You already don't have a choice. The iOS build tooling only runs on MacOS. So your current options are: 1. Run all of your CI infra on MacOS (literal insanity) 2. Have dedicated mac minis just for building iOS apps (waste of $$$ and additional maintenance hassle) 3. Use a build cloud (somehow even more expensive than option 2)

sdflhasjd 3y ago
What I meant by platform is GitLab/GitHub/Teamcity/etc. You can at least use the same CI platform for all your builds, you "just" need some macOS runners/build agents to do iOS builds. Xcode cloud is another platform that basically nothing integrates with - an additional shit option to add to the existing pile of shit options.
- basicallybones 3y ago
  I'll take the opposite position. A few weeks ago, I migrated my CI/CD pipelines from GitHub Actions to Google Cloud Build, which was a meaningful improvement for me. But I left my mobile pipelines on GitHub Actions due to the lack of MacOS environments in GCB. I have not yet looked into the details, but this new Xcode Cloud free tier might be a godsend for me. GitHub Actions sucks, and their on-demand MacOS runners are crazy expensive. This will let me flip over to Xcode Cloud for Apple builds, save the $0.16/min I spend on GitHub Actions MacOS runners, and probably have a much better experience overall. The web stack gets built on GCB and deployed to GCP, and the mobile apps would get built on Xcode cloud and deployed to the App Store.

isodev 3y ago

> separate CI platform just for iOS? What else is there? For web things I already have some GitHub actions taking care of the work.

kojoru 3y ago
Github Actions totally has MacOS runners: https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-github-hosted-runners/about-github-hosted-runners/about-github-hosted-runners#supported-runners-and-hardware-resources https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-github-hosted-runne...