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Because Bluetooth barely works normally for Windows

Etheryte 3y ago
Can't be affected by an attack vector if the vector doesn't work to begin with, clever.
d3w4s9 3y ago
As someone who used a bluetooth mouse with Windows for the past few years, have to disagree And Bluetooth got quite a bit better on Windows 11 after the new audio profile thing is available
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
I know it's a popular trope on HN to say nothing on Windows ever works but anecdotally I've been using Bluetooth on windows for over 10 years now from 7 to 11, and never had any issues whatsoever that were related to Windows itself. The only issues I have are Bluetooth disappears after wake from sleep which after research appears to be due to buggy firmware of the Mediatek network card installed in the laptop and not due to Windows, as the same issue happens at wake from sleep in Ubuntu. And another issue was due to the device used being a Chinese no-name bootleg e-waste piece of crap off Amazon. Ironically never had any issues with Bluetooth earphones off AliExpress. So YMMV.
- 360MustangScope 3y ago
  I’ve had a ton issues on Windows with Bluetooth and I know it’s not the hardware because on Linux it works fine. My Xbox Series controller is the biggest issue. For instance will not automatically reconnect when I pair it the first time and then disconnect. On the next turn on of the controller, it never finds the PC and connects. Windows then has no push for me to press to connect. I have to delete the controller and then repair it each time. Sometimes I can’t even delete it and have to go into RegEdit and delete it. The delete button just does nothing sometimes in that menu
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    The Xbox is a popular controller so its Bluetooth connection issues on windows should be well documented online by multiple users by now if it's a known issue. Or is it just you and a handful of unlucky users due to some buggy Bluetooth card-driver combo? There are a lot of short straws you can pull in the Bluetooth stack lottery that don't necessarily stem from the OS.
    - 360MustangScope 3y ago
      A few of friends also have this experience with the controller. Nobody bothers to say anything though and they all told me that I’d just be better off plugging it in. Which is what they do and what I ended up doing
      - vel0city 3y ago
        I've used an original Xbox One Bluetooth controller on Windows with about a dozen different Bluetooth adapters. I've never had problems. I also used a Bluetooth Xbox 360 controller before and once again didn't have issues. I also use a GuliKit Zen Pro controller without issues across close to half a dozen different Bluetooth adapters without issue. All in Windows. I'd be interested in knowing what version of Windows you're using. Bluetooth has had a lot of updates in the past few generations of Windows.
  - givinguflac 3y ago
    For what it’s worth, I had a similar experience with my old Xbox controller. I bought a new one and the issue went away.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      Could be one of two issues here. Either your old controller could have been faulty, or the other one, the new controller has a firmware update or HW revision that fixes the issue your old one had. Impossible to know without deeper dives in HW & FW revisions.
ofrzeta 3y ago
I think you mixed up Windows and Linux. Or maybe both have their share of problems. Or maybe it is, as some people here say, impossible to implement Bluetooth properly.
worewood 3y ago
I agree. In Windows whenever I need to connect my BT headset I have to re-pair it, otherwise I get just speakers, no mic.

Can't be affected by an attack vector if the vector doesn't work to begin with, clever.

As someone who used a bluetooth mouse with Windows for the past few years, have to disagree And Bluetooth got quite a bit better on Windows 11 after the new audio profile thing is available

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

I know it's a popular trope on HN to say nothing on Windows ever works but anecdotally I've been using Bluetooth on windows for over 10 years now from 7 to 11, and never had any issues whatsoever that were related to Windows itself. The only issues I have are Bluetooth disappears after wake from sleep which after research appears to be due to buggy firmware of the Mediatek network card installed in the laptop and not due to Windows, as the same issue happens at wake from sleep in Ubuntu. And another issue was due to the device used being a Chinese no-name bootleg e-waste piece of crap off Amazon. Ironically never had any issues with Bluetooth earphones off AliExpress. So YMMV.

360MustangScope 3y ago
I’ve had a ton issues on Windows with Bluetooth and I know it’s not the hardware because on Linux it works fine. My Xbox Series controller is the biggest issue. For instance will not automatically reconnect when I pair it the first time and then disconnect. On the next turn on of the controller, it never finds the PC and connects. Windows then has no push for me to press to connect. I have to delete the controller and then repair it each time. Sometimes I can’t even delete it and have to go into RegEdit and delete it. The delete button just does nothing sometimes in that menu
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  The Xbox is a popular controller so its Bluetooth connection issues on windows should be well documented online by multiple users by now if it's a known issue. Or is it just you and a handful of unlucky users due to some buggy Bluetooth card-driver combo? There are a lot of short straws you can pull in the Bluetooth stack lottery that don't necessarily stem from the OS.
  - 360MustangScope 3y ago
    A few of friends also have this experience with the controller. Nobody bothers to say anything though and they all told me that I’d just be better off plugging it in. Which is what they do and what I ended up doing
    - vel0city 3y ago
      I've used an original Xbox One Bluetooth controller on Windows with about a dozen different Bluetooth adapters. I've never had problems. I also used a Bluetooth Xbox 360 controller before and once again didn't have issues. I also use a GuliKit Zen Pro controller without issues across close to half a dozen different Bluetooth adapters without issue. All in Windows. I'd be interested in knowing what version of Windows you're using. Bluetooth has had a lot of updates in the past few generations of Windows.
- givinguflac 3y ago
  For what it’s worth, I had a similar experience with my old Xbox controller. I bought a new one and the issue went away.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    Could be one of two issues here. Either your old controller could have been faulty, or the other one, the new controller has a firmware update or HW revision that fixes the issue your old one had. Impossible to know without deeper dives in HW & FW revisions.

ofrzeta 3y ago

I think you mixed up Windows and Linux. Or maybe both have their share of problems. Or maybe it is, as some people here say, impossible to implement Bluetooth properly.

worewood 3y ago

I agree. In Windows whenever I need to connect my BT headset I have to re-pair it, otherwise I get just speakers, no mic.