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It's true that the licensing change is a turnoff, but Terraform redefined an industry. What's the alternative? (I'm hoping Mitchell is going to have an answer
by ak217 3y ago
It's true that the licensing change is a turnoff, but Terraform redefined an industry. What's the alternative?
(I'm hoping Mitchell is going to have an answer to that)
- lawik 3y agoIt was forked. The OpenTofu variant seems to have backing. Used it yesterday.
- kkapelon 3y agoPulumi and Crossplane Or OpenTF if you want to same thing minus the licensing mess
- pas 3y ago> Crossplane I tried to understand what is it, how it works, what is it good for, but ... never managed to. It still has the same "build control planes without needing to write code" on its website. okay, it says "orchestrate applications and infrastructure". that's at least makes sense when the context is Terraform and Pulumi. okay, in the quickstart the whole thing seems like code. but okay. ah, so you can use k8s CRDs to define cloud stuff (like S3 buckets and GCP GCS buckets and whatnot), not bad, but super verbose.
- kkapelon 3y agoPulumi -> Same end result as Terraform but you use Code (python, go, typescript) to describe resources instead of hcl Crossplane -> Same end result as Terraform but you use K8s resources in YAML to describe your infra. I hope that helps. But I agree that the crossplane/upbound marketing is super confusing.
- ak217 3y agoThanks for noting these. From my experience, neither can replace terraform (though Pulumi might be on the right track). Neither come anywhere close to the Terraform AWS provider, and tightly coupling my IaC to Kubernetes is a non-starter for me (and I'm sure for many others as well).
- nijave 3y agoImo main benefit is you can use 1 tool/deploy pipeline for app and infrastructure. Yes, technically you can do that with Terraform but in my experience it doesn't work great for code deploys (which tend to have procedural steps)