>anyone in QA wasn’t “good enough” This is why. Engineers have some of the most inflated egos that they set an extremely high bar for being “part of the club”.

>anyone in QA wasn’t “good enough” This is why. Engineers have some of the most inflated egos that they set an extremely high bar for being “part of the club”. Sometimes that’s corporate policy (hire better than you) and sometimes it’s just toxicity (I am better than you). Without realizing that the most valuable skills they could learn are soft skills. I’m open to finding anyone willing to code. Whether it’s from QA, sales, Gerry’s nephew, recent CS grad, Designer turned coder, or that business analyst that taught themselves Python/Pandas. A good QA team is sorely missed. A bad QA team turns the whole notion of QA teams sour. Just the same for development teams :D I think devs are first line of defense. Unit tests etc. QA is second line (should we release?), feature testing, regression, UX continuity, etc. There’s value in it if you can afford it.