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If that is implied, it is verifiably false. In the EU we had higher Covid vaccine coverage, including coverage with all vaccines given in the U.S., plus one mor

If that is implied, it is verifiably false. In the EU we had higher Covid vaccine coverage, including coverage with all vaccines given in the U.S., plus one more which wasn't given in the U.S. and which is also the only one with known adverse effects - AstraZeneca's. And we don't have any excess mortality now. So it's certainly not vaccines.

stefantalpalaru 3y ago
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base698 3y ago
Seems still higher some countries and lower in others. I'm not familiar with the country codes, so if someone is maybe enlighten me. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Excess_mortality_-_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
- fuzzbazz 3y ago
  higher on average and lower in some eastern Europe countries
zmgsabst 3y ago
Do you have a source on those claims? All I can find is Europe experiencing excess death: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Figure_1_Monthly_excess_mortality_in_SeptemberV2.png https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... And similarly, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have 1/1000 rate of serious adverse events: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ A pro-active study of Pfizer from Thailand observed 1 in 35 showing elevated bio markers of heart damage: https://www.mdpi.com/2414-6366/7/8/196 https://www.mdpi.com/2414-6366/7/8/196
- manwe150 3y ago
  That rate looks not-statistically significant in that study. And also not too “serious” (in layman’s terms, not medically speaking) as the baseline rate for the placebo was 18/10000 (the 1/1000 is a delta value above that)
manwe150 3y ago
It seems the article was going to say it was an increasing drug-use (opioid) and mental health epidemic in the US (which seems likely true). Then took a left turn and blamed the deaths of middle aged people on getting a Covid vaccine as a baby—citing a yale study on side-effects that showed people were more depressed and anxious post-vaccination than they expected as “evidence” that the vaccine was contributing to excess mortality

stefantalpalaru 3y ago

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base698 3y ago

Seems still higher some countries and lower in others. I'm not familiar with the country codes, so if someone is maybe enlighten me. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Excess_mortality_-_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...

fuzzbazz 3y ago
higher on average and lower in some eastern Europe countries

zmgsabst 3y ago

Do you have a source on those claims? All I can find is Europe experiencing excess death: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Figure_1_Monthly_excess_mortality_in_SeptemberV2.png https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... And similarly, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have 1/1000 rate of serious adverse events: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ A pro-active study of Pfizer from Thailand observed 1 in 35 showing elevated bio markers of heart damage: https://www.mdpi.com/2414-6366/7/8/196 https://www.mdpi.com/2414-6366/7/8/196

manwe150 3y ago
That rate looks not-statistically significant in that study. And also not too “serious” (in layman’s terms, not medically speaking) as the baseline rate for the placebo was 18/10000 (the 1/1000 is a delta value above that)

manwe150 3y ago

It seems the article was going to say it was an increasing drug-use (opioid) and mental health epidemic in the US (which seems likely true). Then took a left turn and blamed the deaths of middle aged people on getting a Covid vaccine as a baby—citing a yale study on side-effects that showed people were more depressed and anxious post-vaccination than they expected as “evidence” that the vaccine was contributing to excess mortality