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* Closed source * Requires an account to use An absolute shame in this day and age. But I have a feeling it's a requirement considering they raised $20M befor

* Closed source * Requires an account to use An absolute shame in this day and age. But I have a feeling it's a requirement considering they raised $20M before even having a product ready. Which leads to another point - what are they going to do to make sure they make a return for their investors?

ymolodtsov 3y ago
You know most of consumer apps everybody uses are closed-source, right? What they'll likely do is start charging for their AI-powered subscription and make a business plan for teams while building some features for their collaboration.
- capableweb 3y ago
  > You know most of consumer apps everybody uses are closed-source, right? You know that web browsers is not your typical "consumer app" right? And none of the current popular browser engines are closed-source.
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    You won't go far with Chromium or WebKit on their own, and Firefox remains to be seen if it is still around in a decade.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      Great argument, how people may or may not use a browser in the future :) What if instead we look at current reality, which is what I outlined in my previous comment?
      - pjmlp 3y ago
        The current reality is that Google has taken over the Web for all practical purposes, with Safari as last bastion. Which will end the day Apple is forced to allow Chrome on iOS.
        capableweb 3y ago
        > The current reality is that Google has taken over the Web for all practical purposes In the anglosphere and averaged out globally, yes, this is true. But country-per-country, the stats vary wildly. Some countries have ~20% Safari usage, others have ~20% Firefox usage. Other countries like Germany for example has Chrome usage below 50%, which is pretty neat. But yeah, if you're a Usaian, I could understand if "the world" looks differently.
        pjmlp 3y ago
        In Europe, and since five years that Firefox is no longer part of the browser acceptance matrix for project delivery acceptance testing, that I have been part of. Only best effort, not a requirement.
  - jjj123 3y ago
    Well arc is based on chromium, so it’s the same ratio of closed/open source as the majority of browsers.
nipperkinfeet 3y ago
* Interface seems like an art project, so usability looks horrible * Chromium based

ymolodtsov 3y ago

You know most of consumer apps everybody uses are closed-source, right? What they'll likely do is start charging for their AI-powered subscription and make a business plan for teams while building some features for their collaboration.

capableweb 3y ago
> You know most of consumer apps everybody uses are closed-source, right? You know that web browsers is not your typical "consumer app" right? And none of the current popular browser engines are closed-source.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  You won't go far with Chromium or WebKit on their own, and Firefox remains to be seen if it is still around in a decade.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    Great argument, how people may or may not use a browser in the future :) What if instead we look at current reality, which is what I outlined in my previous comment?
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      The current reality is that Google has taken over the Web for all practical purposes, with Safari as last bastion. Which will end the day Apple is forced to allow Chrome on iOS.
      - capableweb 3y ago
        > The current reality is that Google has taken over the Web for all practical purposes In the anglosphere and averaged out globally, yes, this is true. But country-per-country, the stats vary wildly. Some countries have ~20% Safari usage, others have ~20% Firefox usage. Other countries like Germany for example has Chrome usage below 50%, which is pretty neat. But yeah, if you're a Usaian, I could understand if "the world" looks differently.
        pjmlp 3y ago
        In Europe, and since five years that Firefox is no longer part of the browser acceptance matrix for project delivery acceptance testing, that I have been part of. Only best effort, not a requirement.
- jjj123 3y ago
  Well arc is based on chromium, so it’s the same ratio of closed/open source as the majority of browsers.

nipperkinfeet 3y ago

* Interface seems like an art project, so usability looks horrible * Chromium based