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“Essentially, the thinking is that if a car’s in-built infotainment system is good enough, drivers will be less likely to use their phone for what they’re tryin

by conk 3y ago

“Essentially, the thinking is that if a car’s in-built infotainment system is good enough, drivers will be less likely to use their phone for what they’re trying to do while they’re behind the wheel” If the car company makes me pay for another subscription to get Nav data or stream music then by default the infotainment system is not good enough. I’m tired of companies thinking just because I bought their product I’m ok with another ~$20/mo subscription service.

MBCook 3y ago
> the thinking is that if a car’s in-built infotainment system is good enough Everyone knows they lost that battle > drivers will be less likely to use their phone for what they’re trying to do If you’re trying to claim safety, saying that your thing that no one has seen that was developed by a company that doesn’t know what they’re doing and probably runs way too slow is safer than the thing the customer is already used to seems like a stretch. For safety you want people not to do it in the first place. But that’s not an argument for making them use your software is it? —- This is just so incredibly blatantly self-serving. It’s like a two-year-old telling you they won’t ruin their dinner by eating five more cookies. They couldn’t even come up with a plausible reason? I’m with you. I don’t need to pay for a cellular connection for my car. I don’t need to pay $200 a year for map updates. I don’t need to pay $20 a month for SiriusXM when I already have a streaming subscription on my phone. Nothing they want to sell us is something we want. Maybe that’s what they should fix first. IF a someone was able to make something better than CarPlay or Android Auto then you don’t need to cut them off. People will choose to use your better system even with AA/CP available. IF.
DannyBee 3y ago
In this case they think you are okay with 135/month. "Alan Wexler, GM’s senior VP of innovation and growth, said previously the automaker’s own internal research indicates that most new vehicle owners would be willing to pay up to $135 per month for various subscription-based apps and features for their vehicle."
- rightbyte 3y ago
  That is lunacy? Unless "engine starts" and "release handbrake" is a subscription and there is a hefty discount on the upfront price. But then you can just as well lease.
polski-g 3y ago
You should write to your federal and state legislators to have subscription software banned in automobiles.

by conk 3y ago

MBCook 3y ago

> the thinking is that if a car’s in-built infotainment system is good enough Everyone knows they lost that battle > drivers will be less likely to use their phone for what they’re trying to do If you’re trying to claim safety, saying that your thing that no one has seen that was developed by a company that doesn’t know what they’re doing and probably runs way too slow is safer than the thing the customer is already used to seems like a stretch. For safety you want people not to do it in the first place. But that’s not an argument for making them use your software is it? —- This is just so incredibly blatantly self-serving. It’s like a two-year-old telling you they won’t ruin their dinner by eating five more cookies. They couldn’t even come up with a plausible reason? I’m with you. I don’t need to pay for a cellular connection for my car. I don’t need to pay $200 a year for map updates. I don’t need to pay $20 a month for SiriusXM when I already have a streaming subscription on my phone. Nothing they want to sell us is something we want. Maybe that’s what they should fix first. IF a someone was able to make something better than CarPlay or Android Auto then you don’t need to cut them off. People will choose to use your better system even with AA/CP available. IF.

DannyBee 3y ago

In this case they think you are okay with 135/month. "Alan Wexler, GM’s senior VP of innovation and growth, said previously the automaker’s own internal research indicates that most new vehicle owners would be willing to pay up to $135 per month for various subscription-based apps and features for their vehicle."

rightbyte 3y ago
That is lunacy? Unless "engine starts" and "release handbrake" is a subscription and there is a hefty discount on the upfront price. But then you can just as well lease.

polski-g 3y ago

You should write to your federal and state legislators to have subscription software banned in automobiles.