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>well, gattaca, and maybe something else we can't predict, or insurance, or something something Sure, if you don't believe in any of the potential negative sce

by yborg 3y ago

>well, gattaca, and maybe something else we can't predict, or insurance, or something something Sure, if you don't believe in any of the potential negative scenarios, anything goes. You could also post your full name, SSN, DOB, address, etc. here if you are secure in the knowledge that no harm could ever come of it.

dekhn 3y ago
I think we already know for sure that posting a combination of full name, SSN, DOB, and address is a reliable way to provide scammers with the necessary information to commit fraud.
BobaFloutist 3y ago
I think what they're saying is that name (probably not), SSN (almost definitely), DOB (maybe?) and address (probably) have known, confirmed risks. There are current ways that bad actors can abuse that information. Genome is still pretty theoretical, except getting caught for committing crimes.
- dekhn 3y ago
  I just checked, and using my True Name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Names) I can easily find my DOB, prior addresses and phone numbers, and using that information, it's likely I could make a reasonable guess for the SSN.
  - BobaFloutist 3y ago
    it's likely I could make a reasonable guess for the SSN. It is? I mean then why are we bothering to protect anything, this shit is all super available for any given person.
    - dekhn 3y ago
      SSNs are fairly predictable- if you know region of birth and DOB you can get awfully close, for a wide range of the population. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0904891106 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0904891106 Konerding's 12th law, amended: "There is no bit of pseudonymized data which cannot be de-anonymized by a sufficiently motivated MIT grad student" (not entirely joking; see https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/29/with-a-few-bits-of-data-researchers-identify-anonymous-people/ https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/2...)
rfrey 3y ago
The question is, what are the potential negative scenarios.

by yborg 3y ago

dekhn 3y ago

I think we already know for sure that posting a combination of full name, SSN, DOB, and address is a reliable way to provide scammers with the necessary information to commit fraud.

BobaFloutist 3y ago

I think what they're saying is that name (probably not), SSN (almost definitely), DOB (maybe?) and address (probably) have known, confirmed risks. There are current ways that bad actors can abuse that information. Genome is still pretty theoretical, except getting caught for committing crimes.

dekhn 3y ago
I just checked, and using my True Name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Names) I can easily find my DOB, prior addresses and phone numbers, and using that information, it's likely I could make a reasonable guess for the SSN.
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  it's likely I could make a reasonable guess for the SSN. It is? I mean then why are we bothering to protect anything, this shit is all super available for any given person.
  - dekhn 3y ago
    SSNs are fairly predictable- if you know region of birth and DOB you can get awfully close, for a wide range of the population. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0904891106 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0904891106 Konerding's 12th law, amended: "There is no bit of pseudonymized data which cannot be de-anonymized by a sufficiently motivated MIT grad student" (not entirely joking; see https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/29/with-a-few-bits-of-data-researchers-identify-anonymous-people/ https://archive.nytimes.com/bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/2...)

rfrey 3y ago

The question is, what are the potential negative scenarios.