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> YouTube is a monopoly and is addictive Youtube is indeed a monopoly -- but it's not actually addictive. Since they started this war against adblockers I have

by bambax 3y ago

> YouTube is a monopoly and is addictive Youtube is indeed a monopoly -- but it's not actually addictive. Since they started this war against adblockers I have found that I can perfectly live without it. When I absolutely would like to watch an informative video (for example, about how to fix something on my bike, etc.), I first try to open the video in a private window (with ublock on); if that also doesn't work I try to use yt-dlp. But I have completely stopped mindlessly watching videos that are not the result of a search. There's nothing necessary about youtube.

KMnO4 3y ago
> but it's not actually addictive Youtube is definitely addictive to a large population of people. If you can live without it, the only thing we can infer is that it's not addictive to you.
- dr-detroit 3y ago
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- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  Maybe it's habit-forming but not addictive?
  - reactordev 3y ago
    This is a more scientifically accurate description. It’s not addictive in the sense that your brain craves it’s chemicals but it definitely is habit-forming, watching video after video after video on electric motors and their construction has sent me down rabbit holes. Software topics, talks, how to’s, engineering channels, gaming drivel, it’s definitely a habit.
rurp 3y ago
Being addictive doesn't mean that that literally everyone who uses it will become addicted. Most people who use alcohol, or pain killers, or gamble can stop without much trouble; that doesn't mean that there aren't a subset of users who get dangerously addicted. It's great that you're in the majority of people who aren't addicted to Youtube, but that doesn't mean everyone has the same experience that you do.
- bambax 3y ago
  > Being addictive doesn't mean that that literally everyone who uses it will become addicted Not everyone, sure, but a majority. People can get addicted to anything; yet we don't just call any activity addictive -- only those where most people have a hard time controlling their behavior. I don't think watching youtube qualifies (not just being on your phone, or watching tv).
  - swid 3y ago
    YouTube is probably more addictive than gambling, and it’s pretty clear and accepted some minority of people get addicted to that.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
Congrats (kind of), but we can't view "addiciton" in a microcosm of 1. And regardless, addiction isn't the term I'd use to describe the problem. maybe more like all-encompassing. But the real problem is that Youtube makes all this money but it still took a decade+ to start looking profitable. It's extremely hard to compete with them even if you somehow got over the network effects because it's hard to make money while also paying content creators. Google could do it because they could commoditize youtube's early unprofitability to their ads revenue. Ideally, something like Netflix spawns and lets "amateur" content creators host as well, which solves many problems. But netflix doesn't seem interested and the few competitors doing that are still in the discovery phase.

by bambax 3y ago

KMnO4 3y ago

> but it's not actually addictive Youtube is definitely addictive to a large population of people. If you can live without it, the only thing we can infer is that it's not addictive to you.

dr-detroit 3y ago
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BobaFloutist 3y ago
Maybe it's habit-forming but not addictive?
- reactordev 3y ago
  This is a more scientifically accurate description. It’s not addictive in the sense that your brain craves it’s chemicals but it definitely is habit-forming, watching video after video after video on electric motors and their construction has sent me down rabbit holes. Software topics, talks, how to’s, engineering channels, gaming drivel, it’s definitely a habit.

rurp 3y ago

Being addictive doesn't mean that that literally everyone who uses it will become addicted. Most people who use alcohol, or pain killers, or gamble can stop without much trouble; that doesn't mean that there aren't a subset of users who get dangerously addicted. It's great that you're in the majority of people who aren't addicted to Youtube, but that doesn't mean everyone has the same experience that you do.

bambax 3y ago
> Being addictive doesn't mean that that literally everyone who uses it will become addicted Not everyone, sure, but a majority. People can get addicted to anything; yet we don't just call any activity addictive -- only those where most people have a hard time controlling their behavior. I don't think watching youtube qualifies (not just being on your phone, or watching tv).
- swid 3y ago
  YouTube is probably more addictive than gambling, and it’s pretty clear and accepted some minority of people get addicted to that.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

Congrats (kind of), but we can't view "addiciton" in a microcosm of 1. And regardless, addiction isn't the term I'd use to describe the problem. maybe more like all-encompassing. But the real problem is that Youtube makes all this money but it still took a decade+ to start looking profitable. It's extremely hard to compete with them even if you somehow got over the network effects because it's hard to make money while also paying content creators. Google could do it because they could commoditize youtube's early unprofitability to their ads revenue. Ideally, something like Netflix spawns and lets "amateur" content creators host as well, which solves many problems. But netflix doesn't seem interested and the few competitors doing that are still in the discovery phase.