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Couple of thoughts for HN as a lawyer: 1. The fact that Google lost here doesn't bind or affect apple. Jury verdicts aren't binding on any party other than tho
by johndhi 3y ago
Couple of thoughts for HN as a lawyer:
1. The fact that Google lost here doesn't bind or affect apple. Jury verdicts aren't binding on any party other than those in the lawsuit. Apple may or may not be found to violate the law in a separate case.
2. Interesting no one has mentioned Epic's Chinese ownership. I could see Google complaining to us govt that it's unfair for Chinese tech to win these court cases against US tech.
- Andoryuuta 3y agoI'm not a lawyer, but the idea of #2 seems crazy to me. Have there been any past case(s) where the country/nationality of minority owners of a company has been grounds for changing a ruling?
- MBCook 3y agoI’m also not a lawyer, I don’t think they can change a ruling. But they could certainly get a law passed that changes the rules and supersedes the ruling.
- johndhi 3y agoYes - this. It's not uncommon thah the legislature has passed a law in reaction to a court decision to clarify a law.
- MBCook 3y agoCurrent example everyone is likely aware of: all the various states trying to pass pro/anti-abortion laws in the wake of the recent Supreme Court ruling.
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- fulafel 3y agoThere are also are intl trade agreements that outlaw favouring domestic companies that the USA enormously benefits from.
- zemo 3y agowhile they do have pretty deep ties to tencent and are 40% owned by them, they’re not really chinese-owned since Epic is majority-owned by Tim Sweeney, a billionaire programmer on the Forbes 500 who mostly escapes criticism from programmers and game devs by branding himself as a savior for indie devs, which people accept uncritically because he likes to go on twitter and affirm their priors. He’s a highly effective nerd populist.
- jncfhnb 3y agoOh please. Sweeney’s track record is frankly solid for indie devs. It’s not a branding thing. He gets plenty of criticism too.
- johndhi 3y agoOh I didn't know that! Thank you.
- dannyw 3y agoThat’s a little unfair. Unreal Engine is very fair for indie devs. So is Epic Games stores. Fighting to challenge the 30% tax is also good for indie devs. Without that, the 15% on first 1mil would’ve never happened.
- jncfhnb 3y agoEpic is majority owned by Sweeney
- dragonwriter 3y ago> Interesting no one has mentioned Epic's Chinese ownership. Its not relevant to the issues in the cases they have been involved in over app stores. > I could see Google complaining to us govt that it's unfair for Chinese tech to win these court cases against US tech. "The government" (presumably, here, you mean the executive branch?) can't veto a court ruling on the premise that the law should have been different then it was when the events actually happened and the case was heard. There are avenues for dealing with security and other risks from foreign ownership, but they are entirely separate from the legal issues in Epic v. Apple and Epic v. Google.
- johndhi 3y agoTo be clear, I agree with you. But the administration is very anti China. Not saying they can violate the constitution, but they could pressure or suggest legislation about this.
- rpmisms 3y agoThe case can be used as precedent, though.
- ddxv 3y agoI feel like answer 2 promotes the basis that such a complaint by Google is acceptable.
- kevingadd 3y agoEpic is not a Chinese company. I'm not sure why people think it is just because some Chinese investors bought shares.
- DeathArrow 3y ago>I could see Google complaining to us govt that it's unfair for Chinese tech to win these court cases against US tech. And I can see China retaliating if US takes measures against them.
- fredgrott 3y agoahem you know that item 2 given that it is non probative is a non starter as a legal argument...are you asleep doing lawyering?