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Singapore has no drug problems. You might think what they do is extreme but it works.
by notyofriend 3y ago
Singapore has no drug problems. You might think what they do is extreme but it works.
- tensor 3y agoMurdering people does make them go away yes.
- anonygler 3y ago[flagged]
- d0odk 3y ago[flagged]
- memonkey 3y agoI have been thinking about how I (and many others) go to work for a corporate job that has ultimately no meaning in life just to be able to get paid to provide for a family that i only get to hang with on saturday and sunday and if i'm lucky 2 weeks straight out of the year. am i alive?
- hotpotamus 3y agoPresumably you at lease derive meaning from your family; not all of us even have that. I often hear “Had a wife in kids in Baltimore, Jack. I went out for a ride and I never went back” from “Hungry Heart” by Bruce Springsteen in my head when I think about mid-life discontent. That and “Office Space”; it seems to be the rule that we experience it rather than the exception.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoThis is disgusting, dehumanizing, and when applied to any group at any scale will cause atrocity. Says incredibly much about this site that this comment is welcome here. Straight up eliminationist. How about I advocate for your death as a matter of policy?
- SkipperCat 3y agoNot saying I agree with Singapore's methodology. But their calculus is that one drug trafficker will bring in enough drugs to kill 5 people. Therefore, the murder of one person is saving 5 others. Once again, I'm not endorsing or condoning this, just trying to show you how they conceptualize their form of justice.
- LAC-Tech 3y ago[flagged]
- infamouscow 3y agoFor drug dealers, I would argue it's not nearly extreme enough.
- DeIlliad 3y agoKilling them is not extreme enough?
- thrawy2to15 3y ago[dead]
- Teever 3y agoWhich drugs specifically, all of them? Do you feel that the Canadian government should be tortured and put to death for legalizing marijuana? Do you feel the same for Singapore where smoking tobacco is legal?
- theossuary 3y agoWell what they do is: - Have a government who owns almost all the land, and provide subsidized housing to over 75% of the citizens. - Provides universal healthcare, again subsidized through the government - And forces quotas for all ethnicities to ensure everyone is equally represented everywhere. So I guess we could try it Singapore's way, but Republicans keep saying it's a bad idea.
- slily 3y agoIf Singapore's economic and social policies were successful, surely people would want to move there? Perhaps skepticism is warranted from teh evil republicanz - the subject of this submission, decriminalization of drug use, was touted largely by left-wingers based on a few similar, seemingly-successful, small-scale efforts in Europe. Now we know how that turned out.
- mitthrowaway2 3y agoMany people do want to move to Singapore, and follow through with it. The population is over 40% immigrants.
- recursive 3y ago> If Singapore's economic and social policies were successful, surely people would want to move there? Yes, this is not a hypothetical. Are you under the impression that people don't want to move there?
- creato 3y agoThey also: - Have extreme penalties for drug offenses. - Have highly effective surveillance and law enforcement. I guess we can all find what we want in Singapore: an effective police state winning the war on drugs, or an effective welfare state.
- theossuary 3y agoIf extreme penalties for illicit drug use were the part of the equation that worked, then why does Saudi Arabia's drug problem continue to get worse? They've had a marked increase in the abuse of amphetamines, cocaine, and opioids over the last two decades. Maybe stop cherry picking the parts that you like and pretending like they're the parts that worked? https://www.unodc.org/pdf/report_2000-09-21_1.pdf https://www.unodc.org/pdf/report_2000-09-21_1.pdf https://www.unodc.org/pdf/trends2003_www_E.pdf https://www.unodc.org/pdf/trends2003_www_E.pdf https://www.unodc.org/documents/wdr/WDR_2008/WDR_2008_eng_web.pdf https://www.unodc.org/documents/wdr/WDR_2008/WDR_2008_eng_we... https://www.unodc.org/res/wdr2022/MS/WDR22_Booklet_3.pdf https://www.unodc.org/res/wdr2022/MS/WDR22_Booklet_3.pdf
- nmfisher 3y agoThat's not entirely true. Singapore definitely has very few drug problems, but there are still drugs (and violent addicts). Drug arrests make the news at least once a month. To be clear, I'm 100% behind Singapore's drug laws. Not having to deal with psychotic methheads is my #1 thing about this place (compared with Australia). But I do wonder if their laws would work elsewhere (i.e. some place that's not a tiny island with a culturally conservative population).
- dang 3y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38607244.