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With its USD 99 price (or USD 149 for a version with additional material), this e-book seems quite expensive to me.

by aleph_minus_one 3y ago

windowshopping 3y ago
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- replwoacause 3y ago
  Pretty sure this isn’t allowed here
  - windowshopping 3y ago
    I mean, you can just Google RefactoringUi PDF and it's the top result. Me linking the url makes little difference.
    - replwoacause 3y ago
      Well, there is a difference. It’s you doing the piracy legwork in a community full of the types of people who make this kind of content (hackers, designers, indie devs, writers, etc.), versus someone doing it themselves outside of the community. It’s a promotion of it which I think won’t be well received here.
    - systemvoltage 3y ago
      So that justifies it?
      - windowshopping 3y ago
        Yes.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Looks like a trojan horse site
adamzerner 3y ago
I strongly disagree. Relative to other books, maybe it is on the expensive side. But relative to the value you get from it, I think it is incredibly low. One way to think about it is in terms of how much you value your time. If you value your time at $25/hr and this book saves you more than 4 hours of time learning UI design, it is worth it. Another way to think about it is in terms of ROI. As someone in the tech industry I think that having these skills is likely to pay off way more than $99. Not in a legible way -- it's not like anyone will ever say to you "I see you have these UI design skills, here's a $5,000 raise." But I believe that the skills will ultimately shine through and improve your ability to get jobs and make more money. Also, in practice, if you're in the tech industry, there's probably a good chance that you can get your employer to pay for it.
- shinycode 3y ago
  I totally agree, quality knowledge that will last years and saves time is worth it. Amazing book
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago
  In other countries, "tech industry" does not pay that well. Also keep in mind that there exist a lot of people who do programming (even often quite complicated programming) as part of their job, but work in a very different branch of industry than tech industry - also with a much smaller salary than what is common in the tech sector in the USA.
  - fauigerzigerk 3y ago
    The example given was $25 per hour though, which is not some outrageous Silicon Valley salary. I think the idea may well be that there are two groups of people in the world. Those who pay for books and those who never pay for books, especially if they can find a free download somewhere. Students, young tech workers from low wage countries, people who just want to have a look or are horders rather than readers won't pay regardless of price. So the only question remaining is what effect price has on those who do buy tech books. Will they buy a cheaper book instead? I don't know the answer to that, but I can say that for me there is a psychological £49.99 threshold that makes me start thinking and looking at other options rather than making an impulse purchase. This threshold is completely irrational. If you double my salary today, the threshold won't change. It only changes gradually over time.
charlie0 3y ago
Yes, it seems expensive. However, you will save sooo much time by getting it. One of my regrets was not spending money at the beginning of my journey into software. It's easy to justify not spending the money when there's so much free content on YT and other places, but this book is really good. Adam and team has created Tailwind, so he knows what he's talking about.
mablopoule 3y ago
Yeah, same. I'm not ready to shell a hundred dollars for an ebook, however fantastic it is, my upper limit is around 50 USD, maybe 60, and only if it's very good and niche content.

With its USD 99 price (or USD 149 for a version with additional material), this e-book seems quite expensive to me.

windowshopping 3y ago

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replwoacause 3y ago
Pretty sure this isn’t allowed here
- windowshopping 3y ago
  I mean, you can just Google RefactoringUi PDF and it's the top result. Me linking the url makes little difference.
  - replwoacause 3y ago
    Well, there is a difference. It’s you doing the piracy legwork in a community full of the types of people who make this kind of content (hackers, designers, indie devs, writers, etc.), versus someone doing it themselves outside of the community. It’s a promotion of it which I think won’t be well received here.
  - systemvoltage 3y ago
    So that justifies it?
    - windowshopping 3y ago
      Yes.
quickthrower2 3y ago
Looks like a trojan horse site

adamzerner 3y ago

I strongly disagree. Relative to other books, maybe it is on the expensive side. But relative to the value you get from it, I think it is incredibly low. One way to think about it is in terms of how much you value your time. If you value your time at $25/hr and this book saves you more than 4 hours of time learning UI design, it is worth it. Another way to think about it is in terms of ROI. As someone in the tech industry I think that having these skills is likely to pay off way more than $99. Not in a legible way -- it's not like anyone will ever say to you "I see you have these UI design skills, here's a $5,000 raise." But I believe that the skills will ultimately shine through and improve your ability to get jobs and make more money. Also, in practice, if you're in the tech industry, there's probably a good chance that you can get your employer to pay for it.

shinycode 3y ago
I totally agree, quality knowledge that will last years and saves time is worth it. Amazing book
aleph_minus_one 3y ago
In other countries, "tech industry" does not pay that well. Also keep in mind that there exist a lot of people who do programming (even often quite complicated programming) as part of their job, but work in a very different branch of industry than tech industry - also with a much smaller salary than what is common in the tech sector in the USA.
- fauigerzigerk 3y ago
  The example given was $25 per hour though, which is not some outrageous Silicon Valley salary. I think the idea may well be that there are two groups of people in the world. Those who pay for books and those who never pay for books, especially if they can find a free download somewhere. Students, young tech workers from low wage countries, people who just want to have a look or are horders rather than readers won't pay regardless of price. So the only question remaining is what effect price has on those who do buy tech books. Will they buy a cheaper book instead? I don't know the answer to that, but I can say that for me there is a psychological £49.99 threshold that makes me start thinking and looking at other options rather than making an impulse purchase. This threshold is completely irrational. If you double my salary today, the threshold won't change. It only changes gradually over time.

charlie0 3y ago

Yes, it seems expensive. However, you will save sooo much time by getting it. One of my regrets was not spending money at the beginning of my journey into software. It's easy to justify not spending the money when there's so much free content on YT and other places, but this book is really good. Adam and team has created Tailwind, so he knows what he's talking about.

mablopoule 3y ago

Yeah, same. I'm not ready to shell a hundred dollars for an ebook, however fantastic it is, my upper limit is around 50 USD, maybe 60, and only if it's very good and niche content.