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I often watch a pair of YouTubers who cover china, and they used to reside there. The one thing that they lamented often was a lack of maintenance, from histori
by zer00eyz 3y ago
I often watch a pair of YouTubers who cover china, and they used to reside there. The one thing that they lamented often was a lack of maintenance, from historic buildings to lightbulbs in elevators. They tried to posit it as something more cultural, and I dont know if that is true or not for china.
I do feel like the culture of tech has become one of maintenance not being part of what we do. When was the last time you saw someone get promoted for "cutting costs" or "making the code less complicated". When was the last time you sat down and read someone else's code and were impressed at how CLEAR and SIMPLE it was?
20 years ago we were all running on bare hardware. Now it's a hypervisor, with a VM, that has a docker container, that imports everything and a cat. We get tools like artifactory to make up for the fact that all of that might disappear. Top it of with zero ownership (infrastructure as a cost center and not a depreciable asset).
It feels like a fuck shit stack of wet turds and were trying to play jenga with them, shuffling them back to the top and trying to get our next gig before the whole thing falls over and hopefully lands in someone else's lap.
To make a point: do we need docker? No, but writing installable software is hard (depending on language and what you're doing). Docker doesn't fix the problem it just adds another layer in.
The original service is the database. Yet we dont normally expose it because its security model remains rooted in the 19xx's. So we have layers of shims over it, ORM, JSON... pick your stack and "scalable" abstraction.
The author mentions LLM's. The more I play with them the more I feel like this is going to be cool after engineers beat it into submission over the course of the next few years. So much opaque, and so little clarity on what is going on under the hood. It's no wonder people are having trouble coming to grips, it's a mess! If it were a battery break through it would take 10 years to turn it into a mass producible product, but because its software we throw money at it and let it dangle out on the web!!! (and I dont fear AGI)
FTA:
>> I don’t have a prescriptive solution for this. I wrote this text to start a discussion around a feeling I previously struggled with but didn’t know how to label.
I do. We need to do better. We need to stop piling on more and strip back to clear and well understood. We need to value readable code over DRY, or Design patterns or what ever the next FOTM is. We need to laud people who make systems simpler, who reduces costs, who reshape and extend existing things rather than build new ones and pile more on top because it's "easy" or looks good on the resume.
I am part of the problem too, and I need to stop. I need to stop reaching for that next shiny bit of tech, next framework, next library. Because acting like a schizophrenic ADHD child finding candy hasn't really served anyone.
- ysofunny 3y agowhy fix anything if it's easier to add some other layer and kick the problems down the line? it's the economically rational thing to do... you woudln't want your kids to have a boring future gota leave some problems to them, heck cause some because we didn't know any better anyways
- sureglymop 3y agoWould you mind listing those youtubers which cover China? Sounds interesting. Also I'd like to kindly ask you not to use "ADHD child" in that manner because I think it stigmatizes it although I do understand the point you were trying to make there.
- zer00eyz 3y agoHere is them covering the topic directly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4 AS for the ADHD thing, I get it, it's also a pretty accurate description of how I feel some days working in this industry. Its hard not to be a technological magpie collecting shiny rocks!
- sshine 3y agoFor context: both of these YouTubers were eventually denied stay in China and turned their channel into bashing China full time for a living. I really valued their insight and perspective (rural China by motorcycle, for example, is not a common perspective in the west), but eventually had to unsubscribe from their toxic bitterness.
- jdewerd 3y agoYeah, it's a shame they've been audience captured. At the beginning they leaned a bit to the rosy side, clearly glossing over visible negatives. Somewhere around when they left and were able to speak about good and bad but hadn't committed to a narrative was probably the point of peak value. Now they are almost comically anti-china. Ah well.