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Given Chinas horrible record of reciprocity, why in gods name would any country allow Chinese companies to sell autos in their countries? Tesla is the only aut

Given Chinas horrible record of reciprocity, why in gods name would any country allow Chinese companies to sell autos in their countries? Tesla is the only automaker that hasn’t been forced into an IP theft disguised as a minority JV in China.

stefan_ 3y ago
Oh the IP theft is happening anyway. But no, in their infinite wisdom, non-Chinese automakers oppose taxes and tariffs on Chinese dumping EVs because they fear retaliation against their China sales (such a big growing market!). But of course the party will cut them out anyway, they were just waiting for local companies to make somewhat competitive cars. It will probably not be in the nature of obvious import tariffs, but it will happen.
nebula8804 3y ago
Don't big auto companies have tons of plants in the China and are trying desperately to establish brand loyalty to all the newly middle class Chinese? Whats to stop China from seizing all these plants and outright kicking the companies out unless their parent countries let Chinese cars into their market?
autocanopener 3y ago
U.S seems to have adopted advanced protection against dumping of Chinese EV vehicles, via the signature climate law and languages in the inflation reduction act. Chinese EV have barely any market adoption in U.S. Europe is where the potential massacre could be. The Chinese EV still have a small share of the market, but it is gaining. Leave it to brainless Europe to allow China to dump their overproduced EV and kill Europe's entire car industry. Not to mention the profit then gets funneled back into China supplying Russia's war against Europe, making Europe even weaker to fend of China's economic attack. effectively win/win for them.
- applied_heat 3y ago
  I think just the safety regulations are enough to prevent Chinese automotive entry in to the American market
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  > U.S seems to have adopted advanced protection against dumping of Chinese EV vehicles, via the signature climate law and languages in the inflation reduction act. Those same laws exist in China though, which is why Tesla had to open a factory in Shanghai.
applied_heat 3y ago
Geely bought Volvo, what automotive IP do you think China doesn’t have?

stefan_ 3y ago

Oh the IP theft is happening anyway. But no, in their infinite wisdom, non-Chinese automakers oppose taxes and tariffs on Chinese dumping EVs because they fear retaliation against their China sales (such a big growing market!). But of course the party will cut them out anyway, they were just waiting for local companies to make somewhat competitive cars. It will probably not be in the nature of obvious import tariffs, but it will happen.

nebula8804 3y ago

Don't big auto companies have tons of plants in the China and are trying desperately to establish brand loyalty to all the newly middle class Chinese? Whats to stop China from seizing all these plants and outright kicking the companies out unless their parent countries let Chinese cars into their market?

autocanopener 3y ago

U.S seems to have adopted advanced protection against dumping of Chinese EV vehicles, via the signature climate law and languages in the inflation reduction act. Chinese EV have barely any market adoption in U.S. Europe is where the potential massacre could be. The Chinese EV still have a small share of the market, but it is gaining. Leave it to brainless Europe to allow China to dump their overproduced EV and kill Europe's entire car industry. Not to mention the profit then gets funneled back into China supplying Russia's war against Europe, making Europe even weaker to fend of China's economic attack. effectively win/win for them.

applied_heat 3y ago
I think just the safety regulations are enough to prevent Chinese automotive entry in to the American market
seanmcdirmid 3y ago
> U.S seems to have adopted advanced protection against dumping of Chinese EV vehicles, via the signature climate law and languages in the inflation reduction act. Those same laws exist in China though, which is why Tesla had to open a factory in Shanghai.

applied_heat 3y ago

Geely bought Volvo, what automotive IP do you think China doesn’t have?