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According to the EU proposal, this is what they mean by AI: (a)Machine learning approaches, including supervised, unsupervised and reinforcement learning, usin
by GuB-42 3y ago
According to the EU proposal, this is what they mean by AI:
(a)Machine learning approaches, including supervised, unsupervised and reinforcement learning, using a wide variety of methods including deep learning;
(b)Logic- and knowledge-based approaches, including knowledge representation, inductive (logic) programming, knowledge bases, inference and deductive engines, (symbolic) reasoning and expert systems;
(c)Statistical approaches, Bayesian estimation, search and optimization methods.
So rule-based systems (b) are considered AI for the sake of regulation.
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- mikojan 3y agoAren't all current machine learning approaches statistical approaches using Bayesian estimation?
- dpflan 3y agoWhat do you mean by “current”?
- kevindamm 3y agoNot really.. they're often statistically based, but don't need to use Bayes' Theorem or be based on a Bayes Network. They are driven by expectation maximization and stochastic gradient descent, mainly. An autodifferentiation back-propagates the parameter update through a neural network model, but the network doesn't necessarily represent a Bayes Network.
- krageon 3y agoIf that were the case, that wouldn't be just one of the covered concepts in the proposed law. We should not assume world-shaking incompetence.
- soulofmischief 3y agoSo every program ever made?
- miohtama 3y agoYes.
- GuB-42 3y agoThat's the idea, yes. It is not really about the techniques used but about what you are using these programs for. If law enforcement used, say, the average brightness of a picture of someone's face as a basis for suspicion, it could hardly be called AI, but it is nevertheless a highly concerning usage of technology and shouldn't be given a pass just because it is not advanced enough.
- soulofmischief 3y agoI'm sorry but I cannot see how to view this charitably. To me it clearly seems to be a way to enact further unjustified regulation on something that would otherwise be hard to create public support for, by using big new scary words like AI, even though it has massive overreach into more traditional programs.
- mcpackieh 3y agoIf you tell people the computer program that profiled them as a probable scumbag and denied them credit or a job was using methods from the 1980s instead of the newest neural nets, that won't change how they feel about it. Objecting to regulation of such systems because you think the term "AI" should be reserved for the newest and trendiest systems very "HN" and misses the forest for the trees. The EU is rightly concerned about the ways that computers empowered to make important decisions might impact people's lives might perpetrate injustice; that's what is important here. Not some whiny semantic nitpicks about what to call those programs.
- slowmovintarget 3y ago