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Can you do what people did with Windows in the noughties, install a different OS and get a refund for the OS portion of your purchase (or for the apps portion??

Can you do what people did with Windows in the noughties, install a different OS and get a refund for the OS portion of your purchase (or for the apps portion??), it sounds like you're not using it?

norman784 3y ago
AFAIK macOS is free for people with an Apple device, so this won't work.
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  MS Windows was also included in the price at the time of the legal action over pre-install refunds. I'm struggling to see a difference in the situations -- perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious?
danaris 3y ago
...Where did you get that from their post? Unless my eyes are just completely missing it, I didn't see anywhere that they said or implied that they weren't using macOS or iOS on their Apple devices.
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  They're obviously using an OS, but not the specific features of macOS - ie the bundled apps. So to me it sounds like they could use a different OS, so long as they could still run the apps they use. People often say they are happy to pay a premium for Apple because of the software. So, for someone who doesn't use the unique features of a particular OS+apps bundle maybe they could use another ... which reminded me of the lawsuits that resulted in Microsoft [partners?] having to refund the OS portion of the sale price for those who chose not to use Windows. It was a leap, but not a huge one IMO.
  - danaris 3y ago
    I think it's a pretty huge leap from "they're not using Apple's bundled apps" to "so they must not actually like macOS." I know a lot of people who have MacBooks of various types who use Chrome as their browser (and only access their mail through the Gmail web interface), MS Office, etc, rarely using a single one of the Apple bundled apps (save perhaps the very basic ones, like Preview)...and yet, they would never give them up for a Windows computer, because so much of the OS is very fundamentally different to interact with.

Can you do what people did with Windows in the noughties, install a different OS and get a refund for the OS portion of your purchase (or for the apps portion??), it sounds like you're not using it?

norman784 3y ago

AFAIK macOS is free for people with an Apple device, so this won't work.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
MS Windows was also included in the price at the time of the legal action over pre-install refunds. I'm struggling to see a difference in the situations -- perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious?

danaris 3y ago

...Where did you get that from their post? Unless my eyes are just completely missing it, I didn't see anywhere that they said or implied that they weren't using macOS or iOS on their Apple devices.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
They're obviously using an OS, but not the specific features of macOS - ie the bundled apps. So to me it sounds like they could use a different OS, so long as they could still run the apps they use. People often say they are happy to pay a premium for Apple because of the software. So, for someone who doesn't use the unique features of a particular OS+apps bundle maybe they could use another ... which reminded me of the lawsuits that resulted in Microsoft [partners?] having to refund the OS portion of the sale price for those who chose not to use Windows. It was a leap, but not a huge one IMO.
- danaris 3y ago
  I think it's a pretty huge leap from "they're not using Apple's bundled apps" to "so they must not actually like macOS." I know a lot of people who have MacBooks of various types who use Chrome as their browser (and only access their mail through the Gmail web interface), MS Office, etc, rarely using a single one of the Apple bundled apps (save perhaps the very basic ones, like Preview)...and yet, they would never give them up for a Windows computer, because so much of the OS is very fundamentally different to interact with.