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I don't think "made" is really true here. I did not make the choice to be born in this particular country with this particular social contract. And the copyrigh

I don't think "made" is really true here. I did not make the choice to be born in this particular country with this particular social contract. And the copyright law for most part get established before I was even born and I had no say in that. I get the point of social contract, but most people do not form it because it was established before in most cases. Not to mention that this assume you live in a democracy and that social contract is not of sort (it is what it is or we will kill and prison you). So I don't think it is appropriate to make it appear like this was a choice everyone makes. It is not immoral to violate social contact (slavery was social contract but the moral thing was to oppose it -just example not comparison-)

WendyTheWillow 3y ago
Frankly, too bad. You benefit every waking moment from the social contract, and in particular the social contract is exactly what made these works you love so much available in the first place. If you don't agree to the social contract, you can opt out by either leaving society generally, or at the very least not consuming the works that were created as a result of its existence. The very fact that you pirate the work demonstrates you buy into the social contract at least enough to benefit. And if you benefit without contributing/consenting, you're considered a "free rider".
johnnyanmac 3y ago
> I did not make the choice to be born in this particular country with this particular social contract. So we're shifting to "taxation is theft" now? Maybe one day we can explore the cosmos and truly settle our own land (given that 99%+ of earth's land has been claimed by some social contract). Alas, born too early. >So I don't think it is appropriate to make it appear like this was a choice everyone makes. It is not immoral to violate social contact (slavery was social contract but the moral thing was to oppose it -just example not comparison-) hyperbolic metaphors aside: sure, if you oppose the social contract and your government allows it, try to change it. But I think "make digital purchases ownership" is a very small tree to bark up in modern society.

WendyTheWillow 3y ago

Frankly, too bad. You benefit every waking moment from the social contract, and in particular the social contract is exactly what made these works you love so much available in the first place. If you don't agree to the social contract, you can opt out by either leaving society generally, or at the very least not consuming the works that were created as a result of its existence. The very fact that you pirate the work demonstrates you buy into the social contract at least enough to benefit. And if you benefit without contributing/consenting, you're considered a "free rider".

johnnyanmac 3y ago

> I did not make the choice to be born in this particular country with this particular social contract. So we're shifting to "taxation is theft" now? Maybe one day we can explore the cosmos and truly settle our own land (given that 99%+ of earth's land has been claimed by some social contract). Alas, born too early. >So I don't think it is appropriate to make it appear like this was a choice everyone makes. It is not immoral to violate social contact (slavery was social contract but the moral thing was to oppose it -just example not comparison-) hyperbolic metaphors aside: sure, if you oppose the social contract and your government allows it, try to change it. But I think "make digital purchases ownership" is a very small tree to bark up in modern society.