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Glad you asked: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hobbes-moral/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hobbes-moral/

Tryk 3y ago
Hobbes was not the last (nor the first) person who thought about the social contract. As you put it in another comment: Allow me to blow your mind https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism-contemporary/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism-contempo...
- WendyTheWillow 3y ago
  So you understand now what makes piracy so uninterestingly immoral? So clearly a violation then, enacted by free riders who wish only to benefit from the effort and concession of others?
  - Jochim 3y ago
    > enacted by free riders who wish only to benefit from the effort and concession of others? You mean like doing something once and then expecting to be paid for it in perpetuity? Expecting to be paid for the efforts of others, decades after their death? Redefining the legal system in order to prevent others from carrying out the, distribution? I'm much more concerned about those free riders than a teen with no way to pay for digital goods, someone who couldn't afford it, or someone who'd like to keep the things they pay for.
    - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
      If that's what the owner of the work wants, that's what they're entitled to. It's theirs. Besides, the concern isn't pirating The Sound of Music. The concern is pirating Game of Thrones or Euphoria. That's what's being discussed here. You can obviously find exceptions to the general rule of "piracy is immoral" but it is the general rule.
MrVandemar 3y ago
> his substantive conclusions have served mostly as a foil for the development of more palatable philosophical positions. Doesn't sound like he's held in high regard, except possibly to take a position to debate against. And then there's this ... https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/525 https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/525

Tryk 3y ago

Hobbes was not the last (nor the first) person who thought about the social contract. As you put it in another comment: Allow me to blow your mind https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism-contemporary/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism-contempo...

WendyTheWillow 3y ago
So you understand now what makes piracy so uninterestingly immoral? So clearly a violation then, enacted by free riders who wish only to benefit from the effort and concession of others?
- Jochim 3y ago
  > enacted by free riders who wish only to benefit from the effort and concession of others? You mean like doing something once and then expecting to be paid for it in perpetuity? Expecting to be paid for the efforts of others, decades after their death? Redefining the legal system in order to prevent others from carrying out the, distribution? I'm much more concerned about those free riders than a teen with no way to pay for digital goods, someone who couldn't afford it, or someone who'd like to keep the things they pay for.
  - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
    If that's what the owner of the work wants, that's what they're entitled to. It's theirs. Besides, the concern isn't pirating The Sound of Music. The concern is pirating Game of Thrones or Euphoria. That's what's being discussed here. You can obviously find exceptions to the general rule of "piracy is immoral" but it is the general rule.

MrVandemar 3y ago

> his substantive conclusions have served mostly as a foil for the development of more palatable philosophical positions. Doesn't sound like he's held in high regard, except possibly to take a position to debate against. And then there's this ... https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/525 https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/525