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I salute whoever chooses to maintain this

by pushedx 3y ago

alex_suzuki 3y ago
I wonder how they will address versions… `aws s3 ls | jc —-aws=1.2.3` What a nightmare.
- dj_mc_merlin 3y ago
  What about jc 'aws sts get-caller-identity' | jq [..] That way the aws process can be a subprocess of jc, which can read where the binary is and get its version automatically.
  - jasonjayr 3y ago
    That can get thorny, because it adds another level of shell-quoting/escapes, and that is a notorious vector for security problems.
  - sesm 3y ago
    jc already has this, see ‘jc dig example.com’ in examples. They call it ‘alternative magic syntax’, but IMO it should be the primary syntax, while piping and second-guessing the previous commands parameters and version should be used only in exceptional cases.
- dtech 3y ago
  Aws cli isn't the best example because it supports outputting json natively. I'd expect this to not be a huge problem in practice because this is mostly for those well established unix cli tools of which the output has mostly ossified anyway. Many modern and frequently updated tools support native JSON output.
  - hnlmorg 3y ago
    > Aws cli isn't the best example because it supports outputting json natively. The s3 sub command annoyingly doesn’t. Which I’m guessing is the reason the GP used that specifically.
    - cwilkes 3y ago
      Use “aws s3api list-objects-v2” https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/reference/s3api/ https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/reference/s3api/
      - hnlmorg 3y ago
        You can, but it’s not nearly as nice to use. For starters you have to manage pagination yourself.
CoastalCoder 3y ago
Good point. This reminds me of the Linux (Unix?) "file" program, and whichever hero(es) maintain it.
amelius 3y ago
I salute whoever chooses to use this and runs into the assumptions made by this tool that turn out to be wrong.
sesm 3y ago
In theory, if it could load something like ‘plugins’ (for example as separate shell commands) some of the maintenance effort could be offloaded to ‘plugin’ authors.
- kbrazil 3y ago
  `jc` supports plugins: https://github.com/kellyjonbrazil/jc#parser-plugins https://github.com/kellyjonbrazil/jc#parser-plugins

I salute whoever chooses to maintain this

alex_suzuki 3y ago

I wonder how they will address versions… `aws s3 ls | jc —-aws=1.2.3` What a nightmare.

dj_mc_merlin 3y ago
What about jc 'aws sts get-caller-identity' | jq [..] That way the aws process can be a subprocess of jc, which can read where the binary is and get its version automatically.
- jasonjayr 3y ago
  That can get thorny, because it adds another level of shell-quoting/escapes, and that is a notorious vector for security problems.
- sesm 3y ago
  jc already has this, see ‘jc dig example.com’ in examples. They call it ‘alternative magic syntax’, but IMO it should be the primary syntax, while piping and second-guessing the previous commands parameters and version should be used only in exceptional cases.
dtech 3y ago
Aws cli isn't the best example because it supports outputting json natively. I'd expect this to not be a huge problem in practice because this is mostly for those well established unix cli tools of which the output has mostly ossified anyway. Many modern and frequently updated tools support native JSON output.
- hnlmorg 3y ago
  > Aws cli isn't the best example because it supports outputting json natively. The s3 sub command annoyingly doesn’t. Which I’m guessing is the reason the GP used that specifically.
  - cwilkes 3y ago
    Use “aws s3api list-objects-v2” https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/reference/s3api/ https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/reference/s3api/
    - hnlmorg 3y ago
      You can, but it’s not nearly as nice to use. For starters you have to manage pagination yourself.

CoastalCoder 3y ago

Good point. This reminds me of the Linux (Unix?) "file" program, and whichever hero(es) maintain it.

amelius 3y ago

I salute whoever chooses to use this and runs into the assumptions made by this tool that turn out to be wrong.

sesm 3y ago

In theory, if it could load something like ‘plugins’ (for example as separate shell commands) some of the maintenance effort could be offloaded to ‘plugin’ authors.

kbrazil 3y ago
`jc` supports plugins: https://github.com/kellyjonbrazil/jc#parser-plugins https://github.com/kellyjonbrazil/jc#parser-plugins