I encourage anyone who thinks there is "no there there" to, for example, glance over this preprint and some of its references: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.17688.

I encourage anyone who thinks there is "no there there" to, for example, glance over this preprint and some of its references: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.17688.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.17688.pdf