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Why do people who have not tried modern AI like GPT4 keep making up things it "can't do" ?

barbazoo 3y ago
> Why do people who have not tried modern AI like GPT4 keep making up things it "can't do" ? How do you know they have "not tried modern AI like GPT4"?
- esafak 3y ago
  Because they would know GPT4 is capable of getting the joke.
  - reactordev 3y ago
    I was talking about FB moderation AI, not GPT4. There are a couple AI LLM's that can recall jokes and match sentiment, context, "joke" and come to the conclusion it's a joke. Facebook's moderation AI isn't that sophisticated (yet).
soulofmischief 3y ago
It's an epidemic, and when you suggest they try GPT-4, most flat-out refuse, having already made up their minds. It's like people have completely forgotten the concept of technological progression, which by the way is happening at a blistering pace.
- reactordev 3y ago
  I disagree with this view. I think most people who are interested, have tried it. They tried it with a variety of prompts. They found it novel but not entirely accurate. So while I do think there are some people who refuse to use AI at all, I’d love to point out that they already are. GPT on the other hand, is next level. There’s a level after that even. The point I was articulating is that the current gen bot/AI moderation models are not GPT level. At least today from my own experience in dealing with moderation and content flagging trolls. I do believe FB/Meta is fervently working on this with their models they are publishing in competition to GPT. So before you go burning down the town - Accept that technological advancement is great, when it solves your problem. Otherwise it’s bells and whistles to these people.
  - soulofmischief 3y ago
    The comment is about the differences between GPT-3.5-Turbo and GPT-4, and how people refuse to try GPT-4. Not the difference between GPT and other models.
reactordev 3y ago
Why do you assume everyone is talking about GPT4? Why do you assume we haven't tried all possibilities? Also, I was talking about Facebook's moderation AI, not GPT4, I have yet to see real concrete evidence that GPT4 can detect a joke that hasn't been said before. It's really really good at classification but so far there are some gaps in comprehension.
- School-Cotton 3y ago
  > I was talking about Facebook's moderation AI, not GPT4 No you weren't. You were making a categorical claim about the capabilities of AI in general: > bots/AI can’t comprehend sarcasm, jokes, or otherwise human behaviors
  - reactordev 3y ago
    Notice how bots and AI are lumped, that’s called a classification. I was referring to bot/AI not pre-cognitive AI or GenAI. AI is a broad term, hence the focus on bot/AI. I guess it would make more sense if it was written bot/ML?

> Why do people who have not tried modern AI like GPT4 keep making up things it "can't do" ? How do you know they have "not tried modern AI like GPT4"?

esafak 3y ago
Because they would know GPT4 is capable of getting the joke.
- reactordev 3y ago
  I was talking about FB moderation AI, not GPT4. There are a couple AI LLM's that can recall jokes and match sentiment, context, "joke" and come to the conclusion it's a joke. Facebook's moderation AI isn't that sophisticated (yet).

soulofmischief 3y ago

It's an epidemic, and when you suggest they try GPT-4, most flat-out refuse, having already made up their minds. It's like people have completely forgotten the concept of technological progression, which by the way is happening at a blistering pace.

reactordev 3y ago
I disagree with this view. I think most people who are interested, have tried it. They tried it with a variety of prompts. They found it novel but not entirely accurate. So while I do think there are some people who refuse to use AI at all, I’d love to point out that they already are. GPT on the other hand, is next level. There’s a level after that even. The point I was articulating is that the current gen bot/AI moderation models are not GPT level. At least today from my own experience in dealing with moderation and content flagging trolls. I do believe FB/Meta is fervently working on this with their models they are publishing in competition to GPT. So before you go burning down the town - Accept that technological advancement is great, when it solves your problem. Otherwise it’s bells and whistles to these people.
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  The comment is about the differences between GPT-3.5-Turbo and GPT-4, and how people refuse to try GPT-4. Not the difference between GPT and other models.

reactordev 3y ago

Why do you assume everyone is talking about GPT4? Why do you assume we haven't tried all possibilities? Also, I was talking about Facebook's moderation AI, not GPT4, I have yet to see real concrete evidence that GPT4 can detect a joke that hasn't been said before. It's really really good at classification but so far there are some gaps in comprehension.

School-Cotton 3y ago
> I was talking about Facebook's moderation AI, not GPT4 No you weren't. You were making a categorical claim about the capabilities of AI in general: > bots/AI can’t comprehend sarcasm, jokes, or otherwise human behaviors
- reactordev 3y ago
  Notice how bots and AI are lumped, that’s called a classification. I was referring to bot/AI not pre-cognitive AI or GenAI. AI is a broad term, hence the focus on bot/AI. I guess it would make more sense if it was written bot/ML?