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The sad truth is there is plenty of room for Musk to make things much worse. I imagine he can deny them SpaceX payloads. Starlink was just made available to the

by 1970-01-01 3y ago

The sad truth is there is plenty of room for Musk to make things much worse. I imagine he can deny them SpaceX payloads. Starlink was just made available to them as well. He could throttle or deny their uplinks and downlinks.

fragmede 3y ago
Even worse than that, he could make fun of them on Twitter!
niemandhier 3y ago
I hope he does, it would seriously incentivise someone to build a competing service!
Hamuko 3y ago
Does Starlink matter at all in Sweden? I've always assumed they have robust Internet connectivity and 4G/5G like we do in Finland.
- othorns 3y ago
  It does not, totally irrelevant product for most people, especially since it is way more expensive than uncaped 4G/5G and most people have a cheap and fast physical unlink at home. Might be useful for some cabins way out in the wilderness or on an island. But maybe not even then, my grandparents cabin has fiber
- 1970-01-01 3y ago
  Not just in Sweden, but also the massive Norwegian and Maersk shipping businesses. I assume they already have it on many of the ships. https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2023/10/12/maersk-signs-deal-with-starlink-for-its-ocean-fleet https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2023/10/12/maersk-signs...
othorns 3y ago
Starlink is such a niche product in Sweden, it would be such a pointless move that would go by totally without notice. The vast majority of Sweden is covered by 4G and 90% 5G coverage is excpeted within a year. Broadband via fiber is ubiquitous and a lot cheaper than the USA (at least in the comparisons I've seen). Can't speak about spacex not sure if any Swedish companies do business with them.
- VoxPelli 3y ago
  Sweden has to double down on Esrange I guess
jacquesm 3y ago
Well, he can. But if he does then every other country that currently uses SpaceX for their payloads may end up thinking twice about giving the megalomaniac even more power. Because: normal people just obey the laws of the countries where they do business. Musk will end up self destructing over something like this sooner or later, the guy has no sense of when to back down and just keeps on taking on parties with power until he loses and when he loses it will be at a level that he won't be able to recover from. You pick your battles with care, and this is one that was utterly unnecessary. After all the damage the Tesla brand has suffered on account of his Twitter antics (I refuse to call it 'X') he really doesn't need more, especially not in a market that was so far a substantial plank in Tesla's strategy and a country with massive early adoption.
Hikikomori 3y ago
That will just get SpaceX sued for breach of contract.

fragmede 3y ago

Even worse than that, he could make fun of them on Twitter!

niemandhier 3y ago

I hope he does, it would seriously incentivise someone to build a competing service!

Hamuko 3y ago

Does Starlink matter at all in Sweden? I've always assumed they have robust Internet connectivity and 4G/5G like we do in Finland.

othorns 3y ago
It does not, totally irrelevant product for most people, especially since it is way more expensive than uncaped 4G/5G and most people have a cheap and fast physical unlink at home. Might be useful for some cabins way out in the wilderness or on an island. But maybe not even then, my grandparents cabin has fiber
1970-01-01 3y ago
Not just in Sweden, but also the massive Norwegian and Maersk shipping businesses. I assume they already have it on many of the ships. https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2023/10/12/maersk-signs-deal-with-starlink-for-its-ocean-fleet https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2023/10/12/maersk-signs...

othorns 3y ago

Starlink is such a niche product in Sweden, it would be such a pointless move that would go by totally without notice. The vast majority of Sweden is covered by 4G and 90% 5G coverage is excpeted within a year. Broadband via fiber is ubiquitous and a lot cheaper than the USA (at least in the comparisons I've seen). Can't speak about spacex not sure if any Swedish companies do business with them.

VoxPelli 3y ago
Sweden has to double down on Esrange I guess

jacquesm 3y ago

Well, he can. But if he does then every other country that currently uses SpaceX for their payloads may end up thinking twice about giving the megalomaniac even more power. Because: normal people just obey the laws of the countries where they do business. Musk will end up self destructing over something like this sooner or later, the guy has no sense of when to back down and just keeps on taking on parties with power until he loses and when he loses it will be at a level that he won't be able to recover from. You pick your battles with care, and this is one that was utterly unnecessary. After all the damage the Tesla brand has suffered on account of his Twitter antics (I refuse to call it 'X') he really doesn't need more, especially not in a market that was so far a substantial plank in Tesla's strategy and a country with massive early adoption.

Hikikomori 3y ago

That will just get SpaceX sued for breach of contract.