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Not a remake: a PvP "extraction" shooter, which is apparently a term that means something to folks who like to play FPS games online. I, on the other hand, love

Not a remake: a PvP "extraction" shooter, which is apparently a term that means something to folks who like to play FPS games online. I, on the other hand, love offline, atmospheric FPS games with deep lore, like the Marathon games I grew up playing on my family's Performa 6115. https://blog.playstation.com/2023/05/24/bungie-unveils-marathon/ https://blog.playstation.com/2023/05/24/bungie-unveils-marat...

yoyohello13 3y ago
Any by "extraction" they mean "extracting as much money as possible from whales."
Apocryphon 3y ago
Yeah seems like a case of zombie IP, a “remake” in name only in service of the lucrative genre of the month. The very same thing happened to Starsiege recently: https://youtu.be/EAB4vDhCHf0 https://youtu.be/EAB4vDhCHf0
- somenameforme 3y ago
  The greatest bastardization of all time, which rightfully flopped as hard as a 2 ton pancake, was Shadowrun. [1] Take one of the most beloved RPG and tabletop genres of all time, and create an online only, PVP only, $60, first person shooter. Brilliant! [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun_(2007_video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun_(2007_video_game)
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    Yah, but fortunately for that series, they’ve made a few RPGs since then, starting with Shadowrun Returns. No such luck for a proper Syndicate sequel yet…
    - somenameforme 3y ago
      Satellite Reign [1] did a pretty solid take on Syndicate. For some context on that game, they released in a somewhat absurdly unoptimized fashion (CPU bottle necked), and never really optimized it. It should run fine now though on any modernish CPU, a decade after its launch. There are also some collision issues in the game. They're relatively rare, but common enough to show up on a large scale and drive lots of angry reviews. Outside of that the atmosphere/aesthetic is well done and the gameplay is great. The story is about as good as in Syndicate... In any case, definitely worth a playthrough or two. But it stings to think about how much better that game could have been with just 6 months more work. Of course that's what they were probably thinking 6 months before they finally decided to launch! [1] - https://store.steampowered.com/app/268870/Satellite_Reign/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/268870/Satellite_Reign/
  - bee_rider 3y ago
    Shadowrun eventually went free or very cheap on Xbox live… I had fun with it, but free is always appealing. No idea why they used the Shadowrun IP for it.
lokar 3y ago
I still remember closing (an overflow, the main was still open with plenty of room) computer lab early at university so a bunch of us could play marathon.
ClassyJacket 3y ago
I wish Bungie would make another campaign based game with optional multiplayer, rather than an online only live service game. Halo is my favourite game of all time but I couldn't be less interested in Destiny or Marathon. It honestly sounds like work. People talk about Destiny like it's a job, a chore. It sounds horrible.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  Destiny would be great as a non live-service game, too. Gameplay is great, and full sandbox PvP is actually fun.
steveklabnik 3y ago
I grew up playing Marathon, play way too much Destiny, and actually do enjoy the extraction shooter genre. I'm sure there are dozens of us, dozens!
t-writescode 3y ago
Extraction shooters are like Tarkov. I believe important features include: * exploring established maps, looking for loot and/or scrap * entering the map with items from previous runs * permanent loss of most/all of those items on death. It rewards surviving through multiple rounds and defeating people who have survived multiple rounds. It’s not my style of game due to the death mechanics; but it’s been growing with games like Tarkov, The Cycle and Hunt (though Hunt is less aggressively an extraction shooter)
- pharmakom 3y ago
  DayZ casts a long shadow.

yoyohello13 3y ago

Any by "extraction" they mean "extracting as much money as possible from whales."

Apocryphon 3y ago

Yeah seems like a case of zombie IP, a “remake” in name only in service of the lucrative genre of the month. The very same thing happened to Starsiege recently: https://youtu.be/EAB4vDhCHf0 https://youtu.be/EAB4vDhCHf0

somenameforme 3y ago
The greatest bastardization of all time, which rightfully flopped as hard as a 2 ton pancake, was Shadowrun. [1] Take one of the most beloved RPG and tabletop genres of all time, and create an online only, PVP only, $60, first person shooter. Brilliant! [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun_(2007_video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun_(2007_video_game)
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Yah, but fortunately for that series, they’ve made a few RPGs since then, starting with Shadowrun Returns. No such luck for a proper Syndicate sequel yet…
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    Satellite Reign [1] did a pretty solid take on Syndicate. For some context on that game, they released in a somewhat absurdly unoptimized fashion (CPU bottle necked), and never really optimized it. It should run fine now though on any modernish CPU, a decade after its launch. There are also some collision issues in the game. They're relatively rare, but common enough to show up on a large scale and drive lots of angry reviews. Outside of that the atmosphere/aesthetic is well done and the gameplay is great. The story is about as good as in Syndicate... In any case, definitely worth a playthrough or two. But it stings to think about how much better that game could have been with just 6 months more work. Of course that's what they were probably thinking 6 months before they finally decided to launch! [1] - https://store.steampowered.com/app/268870/Satellite_Reign/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/268870/Satellite_Reign/
- bee_rider 3y ago
  Shadowrun eventually went free or very cheap on Xbox live… I had fun with it, but free is always appealing. No idea why they used the Shadowrun IP for it.

lokar 3y ago

I still remember closing (an overflow, the main was still open with plenty of room) computer lab early at university so a bunch of us could play marathon.

ClassyJacket 3y ago

I wish Bungie would make another campaign based game with optional multiplayer, rather than an online only live service game. Halo is my favourite game of all time but I couldn't be less interested in Destiny or Marathon. It honestly sounds like work. People talk about Destiny like it's a job, a chore. It sounds horrible.

rpmisms 3y ago
Destiny would be great as a non live-service game, too. Gameplay is great, and full sandbox PvP is actually fun.

steveklabnik 3y ago

I grew up playing Marathon, play way too much Destiny, and actually do enjoy the extraction shooter genre. I'm sure there are dozens of us, dozens!

t-writescode 3y ago

Extraction shooters are like Tarkov. I believe important features include: * exploring established maps, looking for loot and/or scrap * entering the map with items from previous runs * permanent loss of most/all of those items on death. It rewards surviving through multiple rounds and defeating people who have survived multiple rounds. It’s not my style of game due to the death mechanics; but it’s been growing with games like Tarkov, The Cycle and Hunt (though Hunt is less aggressively an extraction shooter)

pharmakom 3y ago
DayZ casts a long shadow.