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They publish but don't share. Who cares about your cool tech if we can't experience it ourselves? I don't care about your blog writeup or research paper. Goog

by aantix 3y ago

They publish but don't share. Who cares about your cool tech if we can't experience it ourselves? I don't care about your blog writeup or research paper. Google is locked behind research bubbles, legal reviews and safety checks. Mean while OpenAI is eating their lunch.

behnamoh 3y ago
this. google is like academia; you publish a lot but others who implement your work are the ones making money off of it.
- xnx 3y ago
  To take an example from the past month, billions of users are now benefiting from more accurate weather forecasts from their new model. Is there another company making more money from AI-powered products than Google right now?
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    > Is there another company making more money from AI-powered products than Google right now? Microsoft? In the sense that OpenAI is "paying" them... through MS's own investment.
    - xnx 3y ago
      It's a very fuzzy question I posed. For pure customer-pays-for-AI-service it could be Microsoft. I'm kind of thinking of it as: Google's core products (search, ads, YouTube, Gmail) would not be possible with AI and they are huge cash cows.
  - shard 3y ago
    Are there people paying for Google's weather predictions?
    - xnx 3y ago
      Only indirectly, but I wanted to point out that there are a lot of interesting research innovations that get implemented by Google and not some other company.
- fennecbutt 3y ago
  Or, well, like many companies; all the peons doing the actual work, creation etc and the executives and investors profiting at the top. All it takes is to be lucky to be born into generational wealth apparently.
robotresearcher 3y ago
The researchers at all the other companies care about the blog write-ups and research papers. The Transformer architecture, for example, came from Google. Sharing fundamental work is more impactful than sharing individual models.
- aantix 3y ago
  Because of Google’s walled research strategy, they now appear to be an antiquated company. Gemini does nothing. Even if it were comparable to GPT-4, they’re late to the party. OpenAI is blazing the path now.
- yellow_postit 3y ago
  Depends on which impact and horizon you’re talking about. Advancing fundamental research — I’ll give that to Google and Microsoft Research Advancing products that use AI and getting a consumer/public conversation started? That’s clearly (to me) in OpenAIs court They’re both impactful, interlinked, and I’m not sure there’s some real stack ranking methodology.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    Depends on ones relative valuing of "able to use the state of the art" vs "improving state of the art."

by aantix 3y ago

behnamoh 3y ago

this. google is like academia; you publish a lot but others who implement your work are the ones making money off of it.

xnx 3y ago
To take an example from the past month, billions of users are now benefiting from more accurate weather forecasts from their new model. Is there another company making more money from AI-powered products than Google right now?
- ethbr1 3y ago
  > Is there another company making more money from AI-powered products than Google right now? Microsoft? In the sense that OpenAI is "paying" them... through MS's own investment.
  - xnx 3y ago
    It's a very fuzzy question I posed. For pure customer-pays-for-AI-service it could be Microsoft. I'm kind of thinking of it as: Google's core products (search, ads, YouTube, Gmail) would not be possible with AI and they are huge cash cows.
- shard 3y ago
  Are there people paying for Google's weather predictions?
  - xnx 3y ago
    Only indirectly, but I wanted to point out that there are a lot of interesting research innovations that get implemented by Google and not some other company.
fennecbutt 3y ago
Or, well, like many companies; all the peons doing the actual work, creation etc and the executives and investors profiting at the top. All it takes is to be lucky to be born into generational wealth apparently.

robotresearcher 3y ago

The researchers at all the other companies care about the blog write-ups and research papers. The Transformer architecture, for example, came from Google. Sharing fundamental work is more impactful than sharing individual models.

aantix 3y ago
Because of Google’s walled research strategy, they now appear to be an antiquated company. Gemini does nothing. Even if it were comparable to GPT-4, they’re late to the party. OpenAI is blazing the path now.
yellow_postit 3y ago
Depends on which impact and horizon you’re talking about. Advancing fundamental research — I’ll give that to Google and Microsoft Research Advancing products that use AI and getting a consumer/public conversation started? That’s clearly (to me) in OpenAIs court They’re both impactful, interlinked, and I’m not sure there’s some real stack ranking methodology.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  Depends on ones relative valuing of "able to use the state of the art" vs "improving state of the art."