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Microsoft's Copilot is getting OpenAI's latest models and a new code interpreter

29 points by TaurenHunter 3y ago

CSMastermind 3y ago
Is it just me or does the Edge integration fail at almost every task I'd want it to perform? More than once I've had a long document open and I've been like, oh Edge has GPT now maybe it can give me a summary. It will read the page, produce something vague, I'll ask a follow up question and it will completely lose track of what we're doing and like search Bing for generic information not at all related to the webpage I'm on. It also seems inherently unable to say, "oh the page doesn't include that information" rather it just makes things up so I always end up just having to read the document myself. It really feels like an LLM being slapped on for the sake of having one rather than trying to solve a real need. Which is super frustrating because I have a real need and this technology in theory could solve it.
- phito 3y ago
  Yeah, same with the recent paint integration they've previewed, it's just bad.
- omneity 3y ago
  I’m working on something in this space that doesn’t exhibit the issues you mentioned, and it could potentially be useful to you. Can I get in touch with you for a demo and to get your feedback?
  - CSMastermind 3y ago
    Yeah happy to try it out.
    - omneity 3y ago
      Thanks a lot! I will reach out to you soon via the email on your profile.
- bboygravity 3y ago
  I suspect that Microsoft being Microsoft just wants to abuse GPT to drive more traffic/sales to their existing (shitty) products. Give Microsoft AGI and they'll use it to program blow-up dolls that walk around telling everybody how great Teams/Bing/Azure is.
  - civilitty 3y ago
    > they'll use it to program blow-up dolls that walk around telling everybody how great Teams is And that's how we get Cylon Terminators.
- junon 3y ago
  This is my biggest gripe with LLMs right now. They almost refuse, as a rule, to tell you anything along the lines of "I don't know".
  - dewey 3y ago
    So just like real humans!
orwin 3y ago
Is it the same copilot as Vscode copilot? It doesn't seems to be. Do Microsoft have another product called copilot?
- eesmith 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Copilot#Microsoft_Copilot_for_Microsoft_365 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Copilot#Microsoft_Co... > March 16, 2023, Microsoft announced Microsoft 365 Copilot.[32][33] This tool, designed for Microsoft 365 applications and services, Edge, Microsoft Bing and Windows, leverages the advanced capabilities of OpenAI's GPT-4 large language models (LLMs). It also incorporates Microsoft Graph to transform user text input into content across various Microsoft 365 applications, including Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and Teams. Not the same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub_Copilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub_Copilot : > GitHub Copilot (not to be confused with "Copilot X", the name of GitHub's "vision" for next-gen Copilot features[1]) is a cloud-based artificial intelligence tool developed by GitHub (owned by Microsoft) and OpenAI to assist users of Visual Studio Code, Visual Studio, Neovim, and JetBrains integrated development environments (IDEs) by autocompleting code.
- poolopolopolo 3y ago
  I think they are using copilot name for any AI assistant (bring back clippit ms!)
Alifatisk 3y ago
The limited context window is a huge downside with Bing Ai Having to start a new conversation every fifth message is such a bummer.
- deafpolygon 3y ago
  It's more like every 30.
  - Onawa 3y ago
    I believe that the limit is five for people who are not logged in, and 30 for people who are logged in, hence the discrepancy between what you guys are saying.
    - Alifatisk 3y ago
      Even when I’m logged in, the limit is five messages.
- jwestbury 3y ago
  The five-message limit isn't a result of the context window, but an arbitrary constraint applied after early results of the Bing chatbot were, uh... troubling[0]? 0. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2023/02/16/microsoft-bing-chatbot-professes-love-journalist-dreams-stealing/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2023/02/16/microsoft-...
131hn 3y ago
Is there a specific reason to make a distinction between the two products (copilot/chatgpt+) when in the end, they are using the same engine.. ? It is confusing me a bit (chatgpt+ subscriber here)
- theonlybutlet 3y ago
  Plenty of custom system prompts for co-pilot probably.

29 points by TaurenHunter 3y ago

Is it just me or does the Edge integration fail at almost every task I'd want it to perform? More than once I've had a long document open and I've been like, oh Edge has GPT now maybe it can give me a summary. It will read the page, produce something vague, I'll ask a follow up question and it will completely lose track of what we're doing and like search Bing for generic information not at all related to the webpage I'm on. It also seems inherently unable to say, "oh the page doesn't include that information" rather it just makes things up so I always end up just having to read the document myself. It really feels like an LLM being slapped on for the sake of having one rather than trying to solve a real need. Which is super frustrating because I have a real need and this technology in theory could solve it.

phito 3y ago
Yeah, same with the recent paint integration they've previewed, it's just bad.
omneity 3y ago
I’m working on something in this space that doesn’t exhibit the issues you mentioned, and it could potentially be useful to you. Can I get in touch with you for a demo and to get your feedback?
- CSMastermind 3y ago
  Yeah happy to try it out.
  - omneity 3y ago
    Thanks a lot! I will reach out to you soon via the email on your profile.
bboygravity 3y ago
I suspect that Microsoft being Microsoft just wants to abuse GPT to drive more traffic/sales to their existing (shitty) products. Give Microsoft AGI and they'll use it to program blow-up dolls that walk around telling everybody how great Teams/Bing/Azure is.
- civilitty 3y ago
  > they'll use it to program blow-up dolls that walk around telling everybody how great Teams is And that's how we get Cylon Terminators.
junon 3y ago
This is my biggest gripe with LLMs right now. They almost refuse, as a rule, to tell you anything along the lines of "I don't know".
- dewey 3y ago
  So just like real humans!

orwin 3y ago

Is it the same copilot as Vscode copilot? It doesn't seems to be. Do Microsoft have another product called copilot?

eesmith 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Copilot#Microsoft_Copilot_for_Microsoft_365 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Copilot#Microsoft_Co... > March 16, 2023, Microsoft announced Microsoft 365 Copilot.[32][33] This tool, designed for Microsoft 365 applications and services, Edge, Microsoft Bing and Windows, leverages the advanced capabilities of OpenAI's GPT-4 large language models (LLMs). It also incorporates Microsoft Graph to transform user text input into content across various Microsoft 365 applications, including Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and Teams. Not the same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub_Copilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub_Copilot : > GitHub Copilot (not to be confused with "Copilot X", the name of GitHub's "vision" for next-gen Copilot features[1]) is a cloud-based artificial intelligence tool developed by GitHub (owned by Microsoft) and OpenAI to assist users of Visual Studio Code, Visual Studio, Neovim, and JetBrains integrated development environments (IDEs) by autocompleting code.
poolopolopolo 3y ago
I think they are using copilot name for any AI assistant (bring back clippit ms!)

Alifatisk 3y ago

The limited context window is a huge downside with Bing Ai Having to start a new conversation every fifth message is such a bummer.

deafpolygon 3y ago
It's more like every 30.
- Onawa 3y ago
  I believe that the limit is five for people who are not logged in, and 30 for people who are logged in, hence the discrepancy between what you guys are saying.
  - Alifatisk 3y ago
    Even when I’m logged in, the limit is five messages.
jwestbury 3y ago
The five-message limit isn't a result of the context window, but an arbitrary constraint applied after early results of the Bing chatbot were, uh... troubling[0]? 0. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2023/02/16/microsoft-bing-chatbot-professes-love-journalist-dreams-stealing/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2023/02/16/microsoft-...

131hn 3y ago

Is there a specific reason to make a distinction between the two products (copilot/chatgpt+) when in the end, they are using the same engine.. ? It is confusing me a bit (chatgpt+ subscriber here)

theonlybutlet 3y ago
Plenty of custom system prompts for co-pilot probably.