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I work in govt tech, we already internally do not care about FF support at all and only really look to chrome based browsers (chrome edge mostly) and safari. Ma

I work in govt tech, we already internally do not care about FF support at all and only really look to chrome based browsers (chrome edge mostly) and safari. Many people don't even know what it is anymore, seems like time killed this browser too. Mozilla spending too much time/money and other crap over the years

djvdq 3y ago
US gov't supporting monopoly instead of fighting it? I'm not surprised.
traviswt 3y ago
> Mozilla spending too much time/money and other crap over the years It seems like a pretty bit conflict of interest when the #1 money source for Firefox comes from Firefox's only real competitor.
- sitzkrieg 3y ago
  yea things have seriously gone downhill since chrome took off in 2010
riversflow 3y ago
What does a government site need that you can't do on firefox? Honestly this is disenfranchising, you should consider the ethics of what you are proscribing for the populace. I should have a right to choose a browser that respects my privacy from a PC.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  ... there's plenty of privacy-respecting Chromium-derivative browsers...
- insanitybit 3y ago
  It's clearly not about what is needed, it's about what is tested. And spending resources on a browser that appears to have 2% of the market is not going to be a high priority.
  - flagrant_taco 3y ago
    "appears to have 2%" is doing a lot of work he. If the earlier comments are accurate, the government stats are based on Google Analytics data that is specifically blocked or obscured by Firefox. That 2% kind be breached, but the data doesn't accurately represent usage if Firefix is blocking GA in any meaningful numbers.
    - insanitybit 3y ago
      Yeah I used the word "appears" exactly to emphasize that the appearance is sufficient. The government is working with the data they have.
      - riversflow 3y ago
        The government shouldn’t work based on data, but on virtue. That’s the whole point of a constitution, common law, etc.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        Easier said than done. That introduces the chance for bias and nepotism. The data driven approach is intended to avoid that.
        flagrant_taco 3y ago
        The data should be accurate though. Any data-driven decisions can easily miss the original intentions if they're made with bogus information. Looking at browser usage data from GA when Firefox specifically blocks it quite often is useless.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        What's your proposal? Because taking an approach that isn't data driven means it needs to be a replacement, and you need to convince people that it's worth the risk of nepotism and bias.
itronitron 3y ago
Last I checked gov tech is larger than just one person commenting on HN.

djvdq 3y ago

US gov't supporting monopoly instead of fighting it? I'm not surprised.

traviswt 3y ago

> Mozilla spending too much time/money and other crap over the years It seems like a pretty bit conflict of interest when the #1 money source for Firefox comes from Firefox's only real competitor.

sitzkrieg 3y ago
yea things have seriously gone downhill since chrome took off in 2010

riversflow 3y ago

What does a government site need that you can't do on firefox? Honestly this is disenfranchising, you should consider the ethics of what you are proscribing for the populace. I should have a right to choose a browser that respects my privacy from a PC.

hammyhavoc 3y ago
... there's plenty of privacy-respecting Chromium-derivative browsers...
insanitybit 3y ago
It's clearly not about what is needed, it's about what is tested. And spending resources on a browser that appears to have 2% of the market is not going to be a high priority.
- flagrant_taco 3y ago
  "appears to have 2%" is doing a lot of work he. If the earlier comments are accurate, the government stats are based on Google Analytics data that is specifically blocked or obscured by Firefox. That 2% kind be breached, but the data doesn't accurately represent usage if Firefix is blocking GA in any meaningful numbers.
  - insanitybit 3y ago
    Yeah I used the word "appears" exactly to emphasize that the appearance is sufficient. The government is working with the data they have.
    - riversflow 3y ago
      The government shouldn’t work based on data, but on virtue. That’s the whole point of a constitution, common law, etc.
      - insanitybit 3y ago
        Easier said than done. That introduces the chance for bias and nepotism. The data driven approach is intended to avoid that.
        flagrant_taco 3y ago
        The data should be accurate though. Any data-driven decisions can easily miss the original intentions if they're made with bogus information. Looking at browser usage data from GA when Firefox specifically blocks it quite often is useless.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        What's your proposal? Because taking an approach that isn't data driven means it needs to be a replacement, and you need to convince people that it's worth the risk of nepotism and bias.

itronitron 3y ago

Last I checked gov tech is larger than just one person commenting on HN.