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X is now licensed for payment processing in a dozen U.S. states
- dboreham 3y agoBut they'll freeze your account if you post something negative about Elon.
- johnsimer 3y agoThere are hordes of people on Twitter criticizing Elon, Tesla, Elon's twitter purchase, Elon's political comments, etc. Last time I checked, they still have their accounts.
- ceejayoz 3y agoThis isn't some silly hypothetical; he's demonstrably banned accounts he's mad at before. https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-starts-banning-critical-journalists-from-twitter https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-start...
- ALittleLight 3y agoSeems like those accounts violated a rule around doxxing. The account that tracked Elon's private jet in real time was banned and those accounts were linking to it on other platforms. You can disagree with the rule on real time doxxing, or argue that it is irregularly enforced, but your comment seems to be a kind of misinformation where you omit the causal link.
- FireBeyond 3y agoAhh, then the FAA is doxxing him, then! Before you talk about that Elon tried to keep his jet private above and beyond that: * the jet is registered to a company with a very SpaceX-y name * the registered office of that company's street address is "1 Space Drive" * when you search that address, Google reports, "Businesses associated with this address: SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company".
- ceejayoz 3y agoThe rule was made afterwards. It was a retcon to justify his actions. https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk5yx/elon-musk-had-his-most-absurd-disturbing-24-hours-at-twitter-yet https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk5yx/elon-musk-had-his-mos... > On Wednesday, Twitter chief Elon Musk banned accounts he said he never would in order to protect free speech, made up new rules to justify it, threatened legal action against a 20-year-old, pontificated on how doxing is banned on the platform, and then immediately posted a video doxing a man and asked his 121 million followers to identify him. > Twitter then retroactively added a new policy that banned accounts "dedicated to sharing someone's live location." He had previously publicly promised not to ban the account. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 It is very clear that if Musk wants you off Twitter enough, he's kicking you off Twitter.
- ALittleLight 3y agoNo, Twitter clarified a policy against doxxing that had previously existed. If I gave you a list of accounts banned by the previous owners and said "Dorsey banned these guys because he was mad at them!" And then it turned out the accounts were all racists, it might be true that Dorsey didn't like them, but the reason they were banned was the racism and that's true even if Twitter had to post hoc clarify their terms of service. Analogously, sharing the current location of celebrities, automated in real time, is clearly problematic behavior and related to doxxing which is already against the rules. That's what those accounts were banned for, and again, you are simply lying by trying to conflate the cause.
- ceejayoz 3y agoConfident but evidence-free assertions, but again, Musk's promise not to ban the account remains online. You can take a look if you like.
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- QuercusMax 3y agoThey weren't "tracking his jet"; it's already being tracked, they're just surfacing the already-available data.
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- iamevn 3y agoYou've described a good thing that I also believe is not "tracking" in the "stalking" sense but "tracking" in a surfacing publicly available data way.
- spencerflem 3y agoHere's one example https://themessenger.com/tech/elon-musk-bans-popular-poster-who-skewered-him-for-eliminating-headlines-on-x https://themessenger.com/tech/elon-musk-bans-popular-poster-...
- ceejayoz 3y agoAnother: https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/ https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...
- ourmandave 3y agoLast time I looked they were all talking about jumping ship to Mastodon and Bluesky. How many actually have is anyone's guess.
- rvz 3y ago> How many actually have is anyone's guess. What's certain is that the rest of the world chose Threads instead as the viable alternative. Other than Threads, the rest of the so-called Twitter / X alternatives are just as relevant as the skeletons and fossils underground.
- rand1239 3y agoWill I get free money if I post something positive?
- oaththrowaway 3y agoI guess they can go build their own payment platform?
- astrodust 3y agoSomehow he'll find a way to make a service even more cantankerous and unpredictable than PayPal.
- ldjkfkdsjnv 3y agoThis is literally not true
- astrodust 3y agoDude has skin thinner than a sheet of graphene.
- nickthegreek 3y agoExcept when it is.
- sidibe 3y agoThere seems to be plenty of criticism on there, he probably never sees it because it's from non blue checks. Mainly be careful not to say the forbidden words cs and decolnization
- Prickle 3y agoI would be more afraid of X banning my account for posting something that violates a random British, Saudi or Chinese law. Fundamentally, no one should want banking and social media being in the same place. All it takes is one belligerent government to apply pressure. We already saw Canada freeze bank accounts of people who were protesting in the capitol. I don't need the possibility of my speech locking my account.
- mikece 3y agoElon has long been on record saying that he wanted to create the "Everything App" -- he wants to turn X into the WeChat of the rest of the world (starting with the US). The cynical side of me thinks that if he pulls it off he will have created a tool of perfect surveillance as well as convenience.
- ldjkfkdsjnv 3y agoRather the surveillance tool is in Elons hands than someone else
- willsmith72 3y agohe's done some really impressive things by pushing the bounds of what's possible/legal i absolutely don't trust him to put user privacy/protection over product development. he thrives off outlandish predictions and aggressive deadlines. user protection is the first thing to go when that's the case
- izzydata 3y agoHas Elon actually done anything? It seems like he just buys stuff then takes credit for things that happen to do well. I am not sure he even does things in the traditional sense of a CEO directing work towards an intended vision. The most successful companies that Elon happens to be a CEO at are the ones that do the best at managing Elon and working in despite of him. The only thing he has been good for is spending money and generating hype by himself being outlandish. So the more money he spends and the more money he generates through investments with the least amount of personal involvement is going to create the most successful company that he happens to be a CEO at.
- try_the_bass 3y agoNot this drivel again. The man deeply understands his rockets, and is heavily involved in the design of them. And no, he doesn't take credit for all the work, either. For example, find any NASA post-launch conference and the first words out of his mouth are always "I'd like to thank the SpaceX team and our NASA partners...", usually followed by the anecdote about how the company wouldn't exist today if not for NASA's willingness to believe in SpaceX after their first successful launch. Ya'll really need to lay off the haterade, or at least dilute it with a little bit of reality. The dude gets a lot of (arguably well-deserved) hate, but that doesn't justify flat out inventing reasons to hate him.
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- kosolam 3y agoHypothetical interview: Host: So Elon, what do you think about the creditor banks? Elon: F-u!!!1 is this clear enough?!?!
- MisterBastahrd 3y ago$44B is a lot of money to burn through just to create a shittier AOL.
- technolocaust 3y agough when you tech bros are all driving around in your smart cars broadcasting unregulated tracking data to a centralized place and people are tweeting about it you’re going to rethink whether or not it should be allowable.
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- jacobsimon 3y agoIt’s remarkable to me that this would not only lead to competition with PayPal (founded by Musk) but also with Cash App, founded by Dorsey. The article does not even mention this second point, which in my opinion represents a huge lost opportunity for Square and Twitter, who could have had the same partnership when they were both doing well and run by the same CEO.
- FireBeyond 3y ago> with PayPal (founded by Musk) Sigh. PayPal was not founded by Musk. PayPal was a Confinity product, and had an MVP, and trademarks, before Musk entered the picture, was CEO for four months before the Board fired him on his honeymoon. Musk's primary "contribution" to PayPal has been collecting dividend checks.
- jacobsimon 3y agoHah actually yeah didn’t realize the full history here, it’s actually tied back to x.com in a full circle way: > In March 2000, Confinity merged with x.com, an online financial services company founded in March 1999 by Elon Musk, Harris Fricker, Christopher Payne, and Ed Ho. Musk was optimistic about the future success of the money transfer business Confinity was developing. Musk and Bill Harris, then-president and CEO of X.com, disagreed about the potential future success of the money transfer business and Harris left the company in May 2000. In October of that year, Musk decided that X.com would terminate its other internet banking operations and focus on payments. That same month, Elon Musk was replaced by Peter Thiel as CEO of X.com, which was renamed PayPal in June 2001 and went public in 2002. Anyway, my comment was more about Square and Twitter and how I wish they’d formed a partnership of some sort.
- est31 3y agoIt does happen that tech CEOs found companies that compete partially or completely with their prior creations. Usually at that point the founder CEO only owns a small portion of the company, and the new company might give them the opportunity to capture a larger fraction of the market. They already know it well, having participated in it a few years ago, and there might be structures in the prior company that might prevent them from pulling off their success in that one.
- iinnPP 3y agoI'm sad that basically all Elon/X threads are now full of nearly exclusively lowest possible effort garbage and that no real discussion occurs. On the topic at hand, it seems obvious that the direction of X is that of authentication (X being where you sign). This news is further proof of that. Along with the checkmark changes among others.
- nitwit005 3y agoThey need to create a compelling reason to switch from existing payment methods to X, which seems to be mostly absent at the moment. A decade ago I'd have said they could target specific markets like hiring artists, but there are now companies targeting those niches.
- sys_64738 3y agoEh, no. Never would I give Twitter and Chief Twit my bank details.
- infotainment 3y agoFinally! I can entrust all my banking to a company that fired most of its SREs! What could go wrong?
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- meepmorp 3y agoTucked away towards the bottom, among the speculation that this could somehow tie into ad revenue sharing: > The company also lost a deal with Paris Hilton’s 11:11 Media, which would have seen the celeb tout live audio, live video and live shopping on X. Musk lashed out at Hilton after the deal went south, but the departures could spell trouble for X’s monetization plans, and therefor its creator economy and payments ambitions. Remember, advertisers - if you don't do business with Elon, he'll shit talk you in twitter.