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OK, took a while to figure out what it is, as I barely know anyone using iphone. Though it's not for me, BUT if they deliver this: > Over time, we will be addi

by szszrk 3y ago

OK, took a while to figure out what it is, as I barely know anyone using iphone. Though it's not for me, BUT if they deliver this: > Over time, we will be adding all networks that Beeper supports into Beeper Mini, including SMS/RCS, WhatsApp, Messenger, Signal, Telegram, Instagram, Twitter, Slack, Discord, Google Chat and Linkedin. We'll also bring Beeper Mini to desktop and iOS. I'm interested, even if it's paid. I'd love to have most of those apps gone and use a cleaner one.

slig 3y ago
Is this some sort of new mobile Adium?
- mathfailure 3y ago
  Miranda-NG.
- djbusby 3y ago
  Trillian
  - philsnow 3y ago
    EveryBuddy
    - edoceo 3y ago
      Not sure what EveryBuddy is. Trillian was a multi-protocol chat client from 2000 [0] named after Trillian [1] from 1979. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(software) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(character) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(character)
      - philsnow 3y ago
        ah didn't realize it had gone away. its successor appears to be [0] now I'm reliving the chaos of the late-00s/early-10s instant messaging apocalypse when AOL sunsetted AIM. Clients like Trillian were absolutely necessary before AIM shut down. Everybuddy was a good linux-friendly client. When I still spent time on IRC, I really really liked Bitlbee [1] with ERC [2]. Gaim was one of the first open-source projects I ever contributed to. (I'm not saying that there's a connection there, but rather that all the chat protocols started getting used less around the same time for the same reason, which was smartphones becoming commonplace in late-00s.) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayttm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayttm [1] https://www.bitlbee.org/ https://www.bitlbee.org/ [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/erc.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/erc.html
    - wiml 3y ago
      Pidgin
      - CaptainNegative 3y ago
        Gaim
striking 3y ago
Happy Beeper customer and original poster here to tell you: Beeper Cloud is already out there and works really well! It's also free, though you'll have to get through the waitlist somehow. It doesn't perfectly replace every app just yet but it covers the most important functionality extremely well. And it's available on mobile as well as desktop devices.
- lyton 3y ago
  Do you mind giving me a referral for Beeper?
  - Wintereise 3y ago
    Here you go - refer.beeper.com/39gJJ0
    - Melatonic 3y ago
      Possible to generate another ? Says invalid code Edit: I mean a code for Beeper Mini on Android - not desktop
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        > Says invalid code Well yeah it was already used and you came 3 hours after the fact.
- kelnos 3y ago
  IIRC, though, Beeper Cloud does not come with end-to-end encryption on messaging services that usually have that feature through their regular app. Messages are encrypted between your device and Beeper's servers, and between Beeper's servers and the other end of the conversation, but the Beeper folks can still read your messages if they want. (Please correct me if I'm wrong; the architecture of their product is pretty confusing.)
neither_color 3y ago
Ive tried the legacy version to consolidate Signal, Whatsapp, etc and you can't send/receive calls, only messages. It's very much still a work in progress
kyawzazaw 3y ago
> as I barely know anyone using iphone. where are you located?
- szszrk 3y ago
  Poland. I know a few apple fanboys but those aren't people I communicate with outside of work. Just not my bubble. It's actually weird and silly when they send me text messages and somehow I end up in the same conversation multiple times - like once 1:1, once in a group chat with myself included twice or more (as a number, as an email, as a second number). It's a bizarre experience and usually iPhone user can't see anything wrong :D
- midasz 3y ago
  I'm from the Netherlands and I know plenty of people who have iPhones but I also know (and am) plenty people with androids. People use either WhatsApp or Telegram. Isn't iMessage just texting within a walled garden?
  - averageRoyalty 3y ago
    > Isn't iMessage just texting within a walled garden? Isn't that exactly what WhatsApp (and to a lesser extent) Telegram are?
    - ric2b 3y ago
      They run on basically any confumer device, so no.
  - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
    The situation is very different in the US, primarily because in other countries SMS fees tended to be really high a decade and change ago, and thus drove users to WhatsApp, but in the US most carriers had adopted some form of unlimited texting shortly after the iPhone first came out. Thus, for many socio-economic groups, iPhone is definitely king in the US, and for them iMessage is just the default way to message people because when it was introduced it was the default way to use SMS on iPhone. A restaurant in Texas famous for their funny signs put this out, https://twitter.com/ElArroyo_ATX/status/1693316647677825160 https://twitter.com/ElArroyo_ATX/status/1693316647677825160 , and tons of people (myself included) could immediately relate.

by szszrk 3y ago

slig 3y ago

Is this some sort of new mobile Adium?

mathfailure 3y ago
Miranda-NG.
djbusby 3y ago
Trillian
- philsnow 3y ago
  EveryBuddy
  - edoceo 3y ago
    Not sure what EveryBuddy is. Trillian was a multi-protocol chat client from 2000 [0] named after Trillian [1] from 1979. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(software) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(character) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian_(character)
    - philsnow 3y ago
      ah didn't realize it had gone away. its successor appears to be [0] now I'm reliving the chaos of the late-00s/early-10s instant messaging apocalypse when AOL sunsetted AIM. Clients like Trillian were absolutely necessary before AIM shut down. Everybuddy was a good linux-friendly client. When I still spent time on IRC, I really really liked Bitlbee [1] with ERC [2]. Gaim was one of the first open-source projects I ever contributed to. (I'm not saying that there's a connection there, but rather that all the chat protocols started getting used less around the same time for the same reason, which was smartphones becoming commonplace in late-00s.) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayttm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayttm [1] https://www.bitlbee.org/ https://www.bitlbee.org/ [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/erc.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/erc.html
  - wiml 3y ago
    Pidgin
    - CaptainNegative 3y ago
      Gaim

striking 3y ago

Happy Beeper customer and original poster here to tell you: Beeper Cloud is already out there and works really well! It's also free, though you'll have to get through the waitlist somehow. It doesn't perfectly replace every app just yet but it covers the most important functionality extremely well. And it's available on mobile as well as desktop devices.

lyton 3y ago
Do you mind giving me a referral for Beeper?
- Wintereise 3y ago
  Here you go - refer.beeper.com/39gJJ0
  - Melatonic 3y ago
    Possible to generate another ? Says invalid code Edit: I mean a code for Beeper Mini on Android - not desktop
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      > Says invalid code Well yeah it was already used and you came 3 hours after the fact.
kelnos 3y ago
IIRC, though, Beeper Cloud does not come with end-to-end encryption on messaging services that usually have that feature through their regular app. Messages are encrypted between your device and Beeper's servers, and between Beeper's servers and the other end of the conversation, but the Beeper folks can still read your messages if they want. (Please correct me if I'm wrong; the architecture of their product is pretty confusing.)

neither_color 3y ago

Ive tried the legacy version to consolidate Signal, Whatsapp, etc and you can't send/receive calls, only messages. It's very much still a work in progress

kyawzazaw 3y ago

> as I barely know anyone using iphone. where are you located?

szszrk 3y ago
Poland. I know a few apple fanboys but those aren't people I communicate with outside of work. Just not my bubble. It's actually weird and silly when they send me text messages and somehow I end up in the same conversation multiple times - like once 1:1, once in a group chat with myself included twice or more (as a number, as an email, as a second number). It's a bizarre experience and usually iPhone user can't see anything wrong :D
midasz 3y ago
I'm from the Netherlands and I know plenty of people who have iPhones but I also know (and am) plenty people with androids. People use either WhatsApp or Telegram. Isn't iMessage just texting within a walled garden?
- averageRoyalty 3y ago
  > Isn't iMessage just texting within a walled garden? Isn't that exactly what WhatsApp (and to a lesser extent) Telegram are?
  - ric2b 3y ago
    They run on basically any confumer device, so no.
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  The situation is very different in the US, primarily because in other countries SMS fees tended to be really high a decade and change ago, and thus drove users to WhatsApp, but in the US most carriers had adopted some form of unlimited texting shortly after the iPhone first came out. Thus, for many socio-economic groups, iPhone is definitely king in the US, and for them iMessage is just the default way to message people because when it was introduced it was the default way to use SMS on iPhone. A restaurant in Texas famous for their funny signs put this out, https://twitter.com/ElArroyo_ATX/status/1693316647677825160 https://twitter.com/ElArroyo_ATX/status/1693316647677825160 , and tons of people (myself included) could immediately relate.