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> In fact the only cities I’ve been to where I felt like I needed to really have my guard up and head on a swivel were US cities. The US is a big place with a
by matwood 3y ago
> In fact the only cities I’ve been to where I felt like I needed to really have my guard up and head on a swivel were US cities.
The US is a big place with a lot of diversity. I've been to many US and European cities and they all seem to have sections that are safe and those that are not safe.
- DeathArrow 3y agoMost Eastern European cities are safe. They don't have big immigration, either.
- otikik 3y agoMost western European cities that I have visited are safe and they have big immigration. I think low immigration might be a factor in some cases, but the big thing is having a working social security net that gives people opportunities when they're down. That improves safety in all cases.
- DeathArrow 3y ago>big thing is having a working social security net that gives people opportunities when they're down. Bruxelles, Amsterdam, Paris have welfare. And that attracts the wrong people. I wouldn't want to wander in many neighborhoods in those cities. Budapest, Warsaw, Bucharest, Belgrade, Sofia, Prague are much safer.
- otikik 3y ago> The wrong people TIL I am "the wrong people". Ok then. Have a nice life.
- kmlx 3y ago> Bucharest, Belgrade, Sofia the problem in eastern europe isn’t violence. it’s cars. the deaths/injuries in those specific countries from car accidents is greater than general deaths/injuries in western countries from any reason (violence, cars, etc).
- DeathArrow 3y agoMost of car related deaths or accidents are happening outside of cities.
- vldx 3y agoYou'll be most probably fine even in the sketchy neighborhoods in Sofia, e.g. https://youtu.be/2qmpfsW-J34?si=wR7FyFv8ocnVCJLC https://youtu.be/2qmpfsW-J34?si=wR7FyFv8ocnVCJLC The car accidents problem is real, though ... there's the half-serous saying that accidents of this type are our form of mass-shootings.
- rat9988 3y agoIt's not welfare that attracts people but the better economic prospects. No idea about Bruxelles and Amsterdam, but I work in Paris and it is quite safe.
- soco 3y agoI can't comment about other capitals but there are entire neighborhoods in Bucharest where police just doesn't go in. Same in Brasov - and these are just my two Romanian examples. I know it's common to blame the immigration for the issues, but let's not forget part of Western immigration also comes from the Eastern Europe.
- OfSanguineFire 3y agoIf there are entire neighborhoods in Bucharest and Brasov, then name them. I suspect that this is complete hyperbole, because when I think of the worst and most shunned neighbourhood in Cluj – Pata Rât where the Roma population was gathered to dwell on a rubbish dump – it isn’t a dangerous, no-go area by USA or South American standards at all. I and fellow cyclists have often passed through Pata Rât at night when returning from cycling trips in the surrounding mountains, felt no danger when stopping to chat with some kids in the street curious about the bike, and the real danger is merely the fumes of burning plastic. Quite a few tourists and Erasmus students also go to get a look at that neighbourbood.
- DeathArrow 3y agoLiving there, I don't believe you. I went often in Ferentari and never had trouble.
- dbspin 3y agoThis really isn't true for much of Europe. There aren't 'dangerous areas' in Germany, Ireland or the UK, that compare to the extreme risk profile of skid row in LA or San Francisco, or the projects of many American cities. The degree of ghettoisation in the US, as well as of course the wealth disparity, outstrips anything in most of Western Europe.
- nicbou 3y agoOne notable exception would be a 100 metre stretch of road near the Frankfurt central station. Berlin is safe, but one or two places are getting sketchy. A part of the issue, allegedly, is that the Taliban cut Europe’s heroin supplies when it burnt the poppy fields, and addicts have turned to harder drugs. You certainly see a lot more broken people around, even if they don’t seem dangerous.
- xamolxix 3y agowhat is a harder drug than heroin?
- recursivecaveat 3y agoFentanyl is 20-40x more potent.
- acuozzo 3y agoKrokodil
- makingstuffs 3y agoI’d have to disagree with you on the stretch of road near Frankfurt HBF. Sure, it’s a tad dicey in comparison to other streets in Frankfurt but it’s in no way comparable to what I’ve experienced in SF. From my experience (I visit multiple times a year as my dad lives there) the homeless people and drug addicts in Frankfurt largely keep to themselves and just sit outside the subway together, albeit taking drugs.
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