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they run kubernetes on fighter jets now

fungalcretin007 3y ago
That is because the pressure on defense to adopt an approach and technologies that 'work' in commercial space has become dogma. Agile is a disease that fuels recipe approaches. Recently worked with a team doing edge architecture and design that has had at least 5 iterations of k8s design and vendors. Why is that? What was the solution? My opinion at the end (even though I love cloud managed k8s for commodity/insecure in the commercial space) is not to use k8s for edge and secure. Stop pretending. It's a mess and it won't get better.
_w1tm 3y ago
What kind of pilot would upgrade their fighter jet cluster midair? These are made up problems.
- vbezhenar 3y ago
  Those who use GKE Autopilot, I guess?
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
The correct solution to that problem is to delete it. Seriously, I am sick of elevators thay run Javascript, cars that run docker and self driving cars running linux. This is not good enough. Our industry is a joke.
- lillecarl 3y ago
  If the elevator company can put in a display, run Linux, cage and electron / webbrowser I think that's a good idea. What I don't think is great is frontend people I work with having "map" explained to them because they don't know. vscode proves "js bad" wrong over and over, crap software can be written in any language.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    All of those things are so complex that faults are repaired by rebooting it. That is not a solution
    - lillecarl 3y ago
      I disagree, if they can get a product with great UX through the door but has to reboot the system on a timer (maybe once it knows its empty from a PLC input) every so often I'd call it a solution. In fact, Boeing thinks rebooting an airplane is a solution to integer overflow[0]. While I do not appreciate everything being a Web app it's also a very robust platform to build upon, there aren't many projects that gets as many eyes as browsers and their components. [0]: https://www.i-programmer.info/news/149-security/8548-reboot-your-dreamliner-every-248-days-to-avoid-integer-overflow.html https://www.i-programmer.info/news/149-security/8548-reboot-...
      - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
        > oeing thinks rebooting an airplane is a solution to integer overflow exactly, that's horrifying. Only seppuku would be enough of a punishment. Mechanical things need mechanical software that never fails. Now, the embedded industry has largely failed at software development and they are using softeare that was not meant for them.

That is because the pressure on defense to adopt an approach and technologies that 'work' in commercial space has become dogma. Agile is a disease that fuels recipe approaches. Recently worked with a team doing edge architecture and design that has had at least 5 iterations of k8s design and vendors. Why is that? What was the solution? My opinion at the end (even though I love cloud managed k8s for commodity/insecure in the commercial space) is not to use k8s for edge and secure. Stop pretending. It's a mess and it won't get better.

_w1tm 3y ago

What kind of pilot would upgrade their fighter jet cluster midair? These are made up problems.

vbezhenar 3y ago
Those who use GKE Autopilot, I guess?

ClumsyPilot 3y ago

The correct solution to that problem is to delete it. Seriously, I am sick of elevators thay run Javascript, cars that run docker and self driving cars running linux. This is not good enough. Our industry is a joke.

lillecarl 3y ago
If the elevator company can put in a display, run Linux, cage and electron / webbrowser I think that's a good idea. What I don't think is great is frontend people I work with having "map" explained to them because they don't know. vscode proves "js bad" wrong over and over, crap software can be written in any language.
- sitkack 3y ago
  All of those things are so complex that faults are repaired by rebooting it. That is not a solution
  - lillecarl 3y ago
    I disagree, if they can get a product with great UX through the door but has to reboot the system on a timer (maybe once it knows its empty from a PLC input) every so often I'd call it a solution. In fact, Boeing thinks rebooting an airplane is a solution to integer overflow[0]. While I do not appreciate everything being a Web app it's also a very robust platform to build upon, there aren't many projects that gets as many eyes as browsers and their components. [0]: https://www.i-programmer.info/news/149-security/8548-reboot-your-dreamliner-every-248-days-to-avoid-integer-overflow.html https://www.i-programmer.info/news/149-security/8548-reboot-...
    - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
      > oeing thinks rebooting an airplane is a solution to integer overflow exactly, that's horrifying. Only seppuku would be enough of a punishment. Mechanical things need mechanical software that never fails. Now, the embedded industry has largely failed at software development and they are using softeare that was not meant for them.