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Netbeans 20 Released

32 points by philonoist 3y ago

evnix 3y ago
If you are looking for a light weight intelliJ alternative, then this is it.
- bzzzt 3y ago
  Only if you call a 500Mb download 'light weight' ;)
  - MaxBarraclough 3y ago
    I'm more fond of NetBeans than most, but you're right it's not lightweight. It also spins up something like 25 threads. Check your system monitor and despair.
    - bzzzt 3y ago
      Maybe it's better the code is multithreaded so stuff doesn't block? 25 threads are par for the course in Java applications. The GC alone has a few and Java Swing probably paints the application asynchronously. Then you still need a few threads for the application itself ;)
- Kwpolska 3y ago
  If you don't mind losing 90% of IntelliJ's features.
  - eddd-ddde 3y ago
    Jetbrains is truly amazing. Can't go back from using webstorm, the code injection feature is so good when writing sql. Once my college licence runs out I'm gonna have to make some investments.
globular-toast 3y ago
I wrote my first few Java programs with NetBeans back in the day. I quickly looked for an alternative because I didn't want to use a language-specific editor. But the main thing I didn't like was how you would create a "NetBeans project" which would be useless for people not using NetBeans. Do these types of IDEs still do that kind of thing or do they support "generic" projects now?
- mindcrime 3y ago
  These days approximately 100% of people writing Java code are using either Maven or Gradle to build their projects, and have their project organized based on that. I say "approximately" but I'm pretty sure the percentage of people not doing this is a rounding error we can ignore. Anyway, all the major IDE's, so far as I know, can import a Maven or Gradle project and work with it. So if you setup your project to use Maven or Gradle, you can share it around and anybody using any IDE (or no IDE) can work with it. Now there will still be (usually anyway) some IDE specific files that get created when you import the project into Netbeans, Eclipse, whatever. But those you can just mention in .gitignore and choose not to distribute with your project. Not sure how all the various IDE's handle working with things like Make or Cmake for environments building with those tools, but I expect a similar pattern probably holds to a large extent. YMMV.
  - potatopatch 3y ago
    There are probably plenty of other possibilities like people writing Java code while using the play framework, so most likely sbt. That bleeds into the question of other JVM language support.
th3iedkid 3y ago
One of the differentiators for netbeans was their swing GUI editor.That was likely 15 years ago!
MaxBarraclough 3y ago
This page doesn't give any details about what's changed in this release. More informative page: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20
mrlonglong 3y ago
I loved writing java apps with this IDE. These days are long gone and I'm happily using .Net instead.
TomMasz 3y ago
I use Netbeans as an IDE for developing on Raspberry Pi Zero since VS Code doesn't support it.

32 points by philonoist 3y ago

evnix 3y ago

If you are looking for a light weight intelliJ alternative, then this is it.

bzzzt 3y ago
Only if you call a 500Mb download 'light weight' ;)
- MaxBarraclough 3y ago
  I'm more fond of NetBeans than most, but you're right it's not lightweight. It also spins up something like 25 threads. Check your system monitor and despair.
  - bzzzt 3y ago
    Maybe it's better the code is multithreaded so stuff doesn't block? 25 threads are par for the course in Java applications. The GC alone has a few and Java Swing probably paints the application asynchronously. Then you still need a few threads for the application itself ;)
Kwpolska 3y ago
If you don't mind losing 90% of IntelliJ's features.
- eddd-ddde 3y ago
  Jetbrains is truly amazing. Can't go back from using webstorm, the code injection feature is so good when writing sql. Once my college licence runs out I'm gonna have to make some investments.

globular-toast 3y ago

I wrote my first few Java programs with NetBeans back in the day. I quickly looked for an alternative because I didn't want to use a language-specific editor. But the main thing I didn't like was how you would create a "NetBeans project" which would be useless for people not using NetBeans. Do these types of IDEs still do that kind of thing or do they support "generic" projects now?

mindcrime 3y ago
These days approximately 100% of people writing Java code are using either Maven or Gradle to build their projects, and have their project organized based on that. I say "approximately" but I'm pretty sure the percentage of people not doing this is a rounding error we can ignore. Anyway, all the major IDE's, so far as I know, can import a Maven or Gradle project and work with it. So if you setup your project to use Maven or Gradle, you can share it around and anybody using any IDE (or no IDE) can work with it. Now there will still be (usually anyway) some IDE specific files that get created when you import the project into Netbeans, Eclipse, whatever. But those you can just mention in .gitignore and choose not to distribute with your project. Not sure how all the various IDE's handle working with things like Make or Cmake for environments building with those tools, but I expect a similar pattern probably holds to a large extent. YMMV.
- potatopatch 3y ago
  There are probably plenty of other possibilities like people writing Java code while using the play framework, so most likely sbt. That bleeds into the question of other JVM language support.

th3iedkid 3y ago

One of the differentiators for netbeans was their swing GUI editor.That was likely 15 years ago!

MaxBarraclough 3y ago

This page doesn't give any details about what's changed in this release. More informative page: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/20

mrlonglong 3y ago

I loved writing java apps with this IDE. These days are long gone and I'm happily using .Net instead.

TomMasz 3y ago

I use Netbeans as an IDE for developing on Raspberry Pi Zero since VS Code doesn't support it.