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They wrote "previously purchased Discovery content". Should I believe you or Sony's official statement? ;) Anyway, never buy content you can't crack (make it d

They wrote "previously purchased Discovery content". Should I believe you or Sony's official statement? ;) Anyway, never buy content you can't crack (make it drm-free) or even better, buy drm-free stuff from the start, but if you really want the best service with the highest quality that has the best portability go ask a pirate, it's been the same since 1600.

aleph_minus_one 3y ago
> They wrote "previously purchased Discovery content". Should I believe you or Sony's official statement? ;) You should believe that Sony is trying to scam you. :-)
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  No their legal team would have wrote something like that: Your previous purchased and limited license to consume media from our partner Discovery is hereby revoked as we can written in our EULA (you have accepted that with your first setup of our excellent product THE PS5 super-slim) we love our customers and have a great day.
  - mr_toad 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_promise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_promise
DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
> Anyway, never buy content you can't crack (make it drm-free) or even better, buy drm-free stuff from the start I agree entirely (in principle), but this isn't an option for certain platforms like the iOS App Store, or download-only games consoles (and I've been burned myself: most notably by EA removing their older games from the iOS App Store: not just them removing the ability to purchase old games, but even for people who had already paid for them to reinstall them (and who actually saves their IPA files? Is it even possible to install IPA files from a PC now that iTunes is dead?) This is something that can only be done by law or something - IIRC, the recent pro-consumer legislation coming from the EU doesn't address "getting-to-keep-what-we-paid-for" - I'm hoping they'll get around to that soon, along with getting protections for data-sovereignty: it's kinda shocking how many popular Apps/SaaS services out there still don't let you export your data.
- jokethrowaway 3y ago
  You can very well choose different platforms. That's the entire reason I don't buy iPhones or consoles. You don't need EU mommy to regulate the entire industry and make it harder for the next ios / android alternative
  - Nextgrid 3y ago
    You can definitely live like a hermit, but the problem is that more and more things don't have open alternatives. > make it harder for the next ios / android alternative If the regulation prevents an alternative from being malicious I see that as a good thing?
    - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
      > You can definitely live like a hermit, but the problem is that more and more things don't have open alternatives. This site is called "Hacker News", and not "Technology Hipster News". Since you likely are a hacker, you should have a pretty good idea what to do ... :-)
      - Nextgrid 3y ago
        You're at least a decade late if you think "hacking" (in the sense of building things) is going to get you out of this situation. The problem with these platforms is network effects and lack of interoperability and not in the technical effort required to build an alternative. This is in fact where regulation can help (and like the EU's DMA already attempts to) get us back to a state where you can actually "hack" your way out of it by building an alternative that will be viable because it can interoperate with the incumbents. --- Or, are you suggesting piracy? I mean I sure know what to do, but none of my non-technical friends know, and frankly I'd rather live in a world where I can just pay a reasonable sum and not have to spend time maintaining a Plex/Jellyfin/*arr stack.
        aleph_minus_one 3y ago

aleph_minus_one 3y ago

> They wrote "previously purchased Discovery content". Should I believe you or Sony's official statement? ;) You should believe that Sony is trying to scam you. :-)

BSDobelix 3y ago
No their legal team would have wrote something like that: Your previous purchased and limited license to consume media from our partner Discovery is hereby revoked as we can written in our EULA (you have accepted that with your first setup of our excellent product THE PS5 super-slim) we love our customers and have a great day.
- mr_toad 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_promise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_promise

DaiPlusPlus 3y ago

> Anyway, never buy content you can't crack (make it drm-free) or even better, buy drm-free stuff from the start I agree entirely (in principle), but this isn't an option for certain platforms like the iOS App Store, or download-only games consoles (and I've been burned myself: most notably by EA removing their older games from the iOS App Store: not just them removing the ability to purchase old games, but even for people who had already paid for them to reinstall them (and who actually saves their IPA files? Is it even possible to install IPA files from a PC now that iTunes is dead?) This is something that can only be done by law or something - IIRC, the recent pro-consumer legislation coming from the EU doesn't address "getting-to-keep-what-we-paid-for" - I'm hoping they'll get around to that soon, along with getting protections for data-sovereignty: it's kinda shocking how many popular Apps/SaaS services out there still don't let you export your data.

jokethrowaway 3y ago
You can very well choose different platforms. That's the entire reason I don't buy iPhones or consoles. You don't need EU mommy to regulate the entire industry and make it harder for the next ios / android alternative
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  You can definitely live like a hermit, but the problem is that more and more things don't have open alternatives. > make it harder for the next ios / android alternative If the regulation prevents an alternative from being malicious I see that as a good thing?
  - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
    > You can definitely live like a hermit, but the problem is that more and more things don't have open alternatives. This site is called "Hacker News", and not "Technology Hipster News". Since you likely are a hacker, you should have a pretty good idea what to do ... :-)
    - Nextgrid 3y ago
      You're at least a decade late if you think "hacking" (in the sense of building things) is going to get you out of this situation. The problem with these platforms is network effects and lack of interoperability and not in the technical effort required to build an alternative. This is in fact where regulation can help (and like the EU's DMA already attempts to) get us back to a state where you can actually "hack" your way out of it by building an alternative that will be viable because it can interoperate with the incumbents. --- Or, are you suggesting piracy? I mean I sure know what to do, but none of my non-technical friends know, and frankly I'd rather live in a world where I can just pay a reasonable sum and not have to spend time maintaining a Plex/Jellyfin/*arr stack.
      - aleph_minus_one 3y ago