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Does it work with the new Youtube ad blocker wall?

by mikpanko 3y ago

blahyawnblah 3y ago
I use uBlock origin, privacy badger, and pihole and have had no issues with youtube with firefox
- user764743 3y ago
  privacy badger is redundant and unnecessary
  - sudhackar 3y ago
    privacy badger is useless at best and can do a disservice. uBlock origin can do everything privacy badger does and more. Also it has been known that having both privacy badger and uBlock origin causes conflicts and issues.
    - ghostwords 3y ago
      Hello! Privacy Badger dev here. uBlock Origin is indeed an excellent privacy tool. However, uBlock Origin is not a replacement for Privacy Badger (nor is Privacy Badger a replacement for uBlock Origin). For one, uBlock Origin uses manually compiled ad blocker lists, while Privacy Badger automatically learns using heuristics. Both approaches have their pluses and minuses. Our FAQ goes into what makes Privacy Badger different here[1] and here[2]. > Also it has been known that having both privacy badger and uBlock origin causes conflicts and issues. As far as I know, the two extensions work well together. Could you point me to some of these issues? [1] https://privacybadger.org/#How-is-Privacy-Badger-different-from-Disconnect%2c-Adblock-Plus%2c-Ghostery%2c-and-other-blocking-extensions https://privacybadger.org/#How-is-Privacy-Badger-different-f... [2] https://privacybadger.org/#Is-Privacy-Badger-compatible-with-other-extensions%2c-including-other-adblockers https://privacybadger.org/#Is-Privacy-Badger-compatible-with...
    - zlg_codes 3y ago
      Which websites have issues with both uBO and Privacy Badger installed? Privacy Badger uses heuristics, so it is possible to get it wrong, but it gives you a UI to toggle with things and correct its heuristics. Since uBO uses manual filters, you rely on list maintainers for your blocking instead of a heuristic that can deal with new threats that manual lists haven't accounted for yet. Using both in tandem should be better because you get the adblock lists and something on the lookout for more trackers. Please, if the issues are there, let's see them.
moxvallix 3y ago
Yes, largely. There was a time where you had to force refresh the filter lists every day or so, but I haven’t had to for a while now. Ublock Origin will be your best bet against Youtube ads, apart from just paying of course.
stop50 3y ago
They update the fikters as fast as they can
desertrider12 3y ago
It doesn't for me - first I got warning popups, and eventually videos wouldn't load at all. I found a different extension called Ad Speedup that basically plays ads at infinite speed, so the ad's first frame loads, but then the video resumes. This is working reliably so far. I would also be interested to know if it still gives revenue to the channel because technically, the whole ad plays (just not at 1x speed).
- goalonetwo 3y ago
  are you using Firefox? I have issues with Chrome (to be expected), but not with Firefox.
  - desertrider12 3y ago
    Oh yeah, chrome. I was thinking the anti-block was tied to my account since clearing cookies and updating ublock's filter list didn't fix it, but I'll give firefox a try.
zlg_codes 3y ago
Yes. There were a few days where they were using odd hueristics that managed to detect uBlock, but after following instructions to clear my cache and update my lists, I re-enabled other lists one-by-one, realizing I needed fewer than I had to begin with, and Youtube's worked ad-free since. Some people are coming up with one-liner Javascript functions to fool scripts on the page as well, but I have to question the durability of that approach. It should work until their JS code changes, in theory.
- robbiep 3y ago
  What browser are you using? I heard a whisper (presumably on here, somewhere) that people had had their accounts blocked for using chrome
  - zlg_codes 3y ago
    ooh I think I know what you're talking about. I'm on Firefox, no Google account. Would not surprise me to see them bully account holders.
elvis10ten 3y ago
I find it funny that you are discussing how to block YouTube ads —- when you can just get YouTube premium. Makes me ask the age old question: how can creators supposed to eat?
- smegsicle 3y ago
  they can get a job??
- zlg_codes 3y ago
  Do you worry how the actors eat in the shows you watch? If at any point a "content creator" can't sustain their video production, they can do what every other failed entrepreneur does and move on to another job, or re-assess the business model and adapt. So far, nothing's been put on the table for me to feel compelled to buy video access, or videos themselves, for. If Youtube paywalls tomorrow, I'll go somewhere else. I got by on the Web before Youtube and I'll get by after them, too.

Does it work with the new Youtube ad blocker wall?

blahyawnblah 3y ago

I use uBlock origin, privacy badger, and pihole and have had no issues with youtube with firefox

user764743 3y ago
privacy badger is redundant and unnecessary
- sudhackar 3y ago
  privacy badger is useless at best and can do a disservice. uBlock origin can do everything privacy badger does and more. Also it has been known that having both privacy badger and uBlock origin causes conflicts and issues.
  - ghostwords 3y ago
    Hello! Privacy Badger dev here. uBlock Origin is indeed an excellent privacy tool. However, uBlock Origin is not a replacement for Privacy Badger (nor is Privacy Badger a replacement for uBlock Origin). For one, uBlock Origin uses manually compiled ad blocker lists, while Privacy Badger automatically learns using heuristics. Both approaches have their pluses and minuses. Our FAQ goes into what makes Privacy Badger different here[1] and here[2]. > Also it has been known that having both privacy badger and uBlock origin causes conflicts and issues. As far as I know, the two extensions work well together. Could you point me to some of these issues? [1] https://privacybadger.org/#How-is-Privacy-Badger-different-from-Disconnect%2c-Adblock-Plus%2c-Ghostery%2c-and-other-blocking-extensions https://privacybadger.org/#How-is-Privacy-Badger-different-f... [2] https://privacybadger.org/#Is-Privacy-Badger-compatible-with-other-extensions%2c-including-other-adblockers https://privacybadger.org/#Is-Privacy-Badger-compatible-with...
  - zlg_codes 3y ago
    Which websites have issues with both uBO and Privacy Badger installed? Privacy Badger uses heuristics, so it is possible to get it wrong, but it gives you a UI to toggle with things and correct its heuristics. Since uBO uses manual filters, you rely on list maintainers for your blocking instead of a heuristic that can deal with new threats that manual lists haven't accounted for yet. Using both in tandem should be better because you get the adblock lists and something on the lookout for more trackers. Please, if the issues are there, let's see them.

moxvallix 3y ago

Yes, largely. There was a time where you had to force refresh the filter lists every day or so, but I haven’t had to for a while now. Ublock Origin will be your best bet against Youtube ads, apart from just paying of course.

stop50 3y ago

They update the fikters as fast as they can

desertrider12 3y ago

It doesn't for me - first I got warning popups, and eventually videos wouldn't load at all. I found a different extension called Ad Speedup that basically plays ads at infinite speed, so the ad's first frame loads, but then the video resumes. This is working reliably so far. I would also be interested to know if it still gives revenue to the channel because technically, the whole ad plays (just not at 1x speed).

goalonetwo 3y ago
are you using Firefox? I have issues with Chrome (to be expected), but not with Firefox.
- desertrider12 3y ago
  Oh yeah, chrome. I was thinking the anti-block was tied to my account since clearing cookies and updating ublock's filter list didn't fix it, but I'll give firefox a try.

zlg_codes 3y ago

Yes. There were a few days where they were using odd hueristics that managed to detect uBlock, but after following instructions to clear my cache and update my lists, I re-enabled other lists one-by-one, realizing I needed fewer than I had to begin with, and Youtube's worked ad-free since. Some people are coming up with one-liner Javascript functions to fool scripts on the page as well, but I have to question the durability of that approach. It should work until their JS code changes, in theory.

robbiep 3y ago
What browser are you using? I heard a whisper (presumably on here, somewhere) that people had had their accounts blocked for using chrome
- zlg_codes 3y ago
  ooh I think I know what you're talking about. I'm on Firefox, no Google account. Would not surprise me to see them bully account holders.

elvis10ten 3y ago

I find it funny that you are discussing how to block YouTube ads —- when you can just get YouTube premium. Makes me ask the age old question: how can creators supposed to eat?

smegsicle 3y ago
they can get a job??
zlg_codes 3y ago
Do you worry how the actors eat in the shows you watch? If at any point a "content creator" can't sustain their video production, they can do what every other failed entrepreneur does and move on to another job, or re-assess the business model and adapt. So far, nothing's been put on the table for me to feel compelled to buy video access, or videos themselves, for. If Youtube paywalls tomorrow, I'll go somewhere else. I got by on the Web before Youtube and I'll get by after them, too.