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So we could have a slightly bigger inside to the usual EV SUV. woo

LargeWu 3y ago
A smaller battery would imply fewer resources required per vehicle, which will be important as demand for batteries increases.
pornel 3y ago
Optimistically, we could have smaller cars without compromising on cabin space or storage. …except when large SUVs are bought as a status symbol, or the race to drive the biggest tank on the road in defense from the other tanks or the road.
- estiaan 3y ago
  I actually suspect part of the reason people keep buying larger cars is because larger cars are safer and sometimes get better safety scores because in a two vehicle collision a heavier vehicle will experience less acceleration in the crash. Also more space to absorb the impact, increasing the time over which the acceleration happens. This genuinely makes heavier and larger cars safer if they are designed properly and maintain the same braking performance, which is totally possible. However the issue is that a larger car is only a safety advantage if your car is large compared to other cars on the road, so if everyone else also buys heavier cars no one wins and pedestrians, the environment and so on all lose.
  - acdha 3y ago
    Also they’re worse for everything else: the poor handling, especially with overpowering, means you’re more likely to get in a crash, etc. Manufacturers have spent billions making them less likely to lose control, roll over, etc. but the physics are unforgiving. Drivers discount that because they like to think that those are things they control and just won’t do, but every year some fraction of people will hit ice, be distracted or angry, etc.
neuralRiot 3y ago
Bigger inside than modern SUVs? What does people transport? How many people ride regularly? What size are people?
- 4death4 3y ago
  Two adults, two kids in car seats, and a dog. With that, even a mid-size SUV has no space for cargo. If you drive a sedan, you have to leave the dog at home.
  - neuralRiot 3y ago
    Maybe if they don’t put a foot-wide console in the middle there would be more space for people and cargo.
  - IlPeach 3y ago
    That's why station wagons and vans exist. SUVs do not provide more space, they just occupy more (on top of being dangerous to others)
    - nradov 3y ago
      Large station wagons no longer exist in the US market. The biggest one remaining is probably the Volvo V90, which is a nice car but can barely fit 5 people, and if you put a dog in the back then there's no room for cargo. It's also too expensive for most families; several large SUVs are actually cheaper. Minivans are a good option for some families. But they suck for towing trailers, and the ground clearance is terrible if you ever have to drive on a dirt road.
      - doubleg72 3y ago
        Yeah really, like I’m gonna drive a minivan or station wagon out in the woods, or drive my four wheeler into the back when I need to take it somewhere.
        3y ago
partiallypro 3y ago
I think more importantly is that you can add more battery capacity, making EVs much more competitive with gas vehicles.

A smaller battery would imply fewer resources required per vehicle, which will be important as demand for batteries increases.

pornel 3y ago

Optimistically, we could have smaller cars without compromising on cabin space or storage. …except when large SUVs are bought as a status symbol, or the race to drive the biggest tank on the road in defense from the other tanks or the road.

estiaan 3y ago
I actually suspect part of the reason people keep buying larger cars is because larger cars are safer and sometimes get better safety scores because in a two vehicle collision a heavier vehicle will experience less acceleration in the crash. Also more space to absorb the impact, increasing the time over which the acceleration happens. This genuinely makes heavier and larger cars safer if they are designed properly and maintain the same braking performance, which is totally possible. However the issue is that a larger car is only a safety advantage if your car is large compared to other cars on the road, so if everyone else also buys heavier cars no one wins and pedestrians, the environment and so on all lose.
- acdha 3y ago
  Also they’re worse for everything else: the poor handling, especially with overpowering, means you’re more likely to get in a crash, etc. Manufacturers have spent billions making them less likely to lose control, roll over, etc. but the physics are unforgiving. Drivers discount that because they like to think that those are things they control and just won’t do, but every year some fraction of people will hit ice, be distracted or angry, etc.

neuralRiot 3y ago

Bigger inside than modern SUVs? What does people transport? How many people ride regularly? What size are people?

4death4 3y ago
Two adults, two kids in car seats, and a dog. With that, even a mid-size SUV has no space for cargo. If you drive a sedan, you have to leave the dog at home.
- neuralRiot 3y ago
  Maybe if they don’t put a foot-wide console in the middle there would be more space for people and cargo.
- IlPeach 3y ago
  That's why station wagons and vans exist. SUVs do not provide more space, they just occupy more (on top of being dangerous to others)
  - nradov 3y ago
    Large station wagons no longer exist in the US market. The biggest one remaining is probably the Volvo V90, which is a nice car but can barely fit 5 people, and if you put a dog in the back then there's no room for cargo. It's also too expensive for most families; several large SUVs are actually cheaper. Minivans are a good option for some families. But they suck for towing trailers, and the ground clearance is terrible if you ever have to drive on a dirt road.
    - doubleg72 3y ago
      Yeah really, like I’m gonna drive a minivan or station wagon out in the woods, or drive my four wheeler into the back when I need to take it somewhere.
      - 3y ago

partiallypro 3y ago

I think more importantly is that you can add more battery capacity, making EVs much more competitive with gas vehicles.