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Very impactful mistake, but apparently not a mistake worth apologizing for. From Wikipedia: "the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apol

by cies 3y ago

Very impactful mistake, but apparently not a mistake worth apologizing for. From Wikipedia: "the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran" Pinnacle arrogance/exceptionalism. Disgusting. Oh, and the US back then supported Iraq in its horrific attack on Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq...

gifvenut 3y ago
You forgot to mention that Ronald Reagan apologized to the Iranian government and the US paid $60 Mil in compensation to the families.
- ben0x539 3y ago
  After having become an expert on the incident from having skimmed half of the wikipedia article, I note that it mentions both Reagan considering his letter an apology and the US government not having made a formal apology, so I imagine there is some clever political distinction between the two.
  - cies 3y ago
    There also has been no apology for US' use of agent orange in Vietnam, nor has there been a payment of compensation. Why not formally apologize for such a fuck up (Iran aircraft), except for arrogance/exceptionalism?
    - ben0x539 3y ago
      I guess because they think it doesn't benefit them and will make future diplomacy harder? I don't know if that falls under arrogance, but I also don't know how to ascribe comprehensible motivations to the state department or whoever is in charge of that.
    - sitkack 3y ago
      The US is still pressuring Vietnam to “pay it back for the Vietnam war“.
      - badcppdev 3y ago
        Interesting: " April 7, 1997 Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin and Vietnamese Finance Minister Nguyen Sinh Hung agreed today that Vietnam will repay the United States approximately $145 million in economic debts owed by the former Republic of Vietnam. " https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/rr1587 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/rr1587

by cies 3y ago

gifvenut 3y ago

You forgot to mention that Ronald Reagan apologized to the Iranian government and the US paid $60 Mil in compensation to the families.

ben0x539 3y ago
After having become an expert on the incident from having skimmed half of the wikipedia article, I note that it mentions both Reagan considering his letter an apology and the US government not having made a formal apology, so I imagine there is some clever political distinction between the two.
- cies 3y ago
  There also has been no apology for US' use of agent orange in Vietnam, nor has there been a payment of compensation. Why not formally apologize for such a fuck up (Iran aircraft), except for arrogance/exceptionalism?
  - ben0x539 3y ago
    I guess because they think it doesn't benefit them and will make future diplomacy harder? I don't know if that falls under arrogance, but I also don't know how to ascribe comprehensible motivations to the state department or whoever is in charge of that.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    The US is still pressuring Vietnam to “pay it back for the Vietnam war“.
    - badcppdev 3y ago
      Interesting: " April 7, 1997 Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin and Vietnamese Finance Minister Nguyen Sinh Hung agreed today that Vietnam will repay the United States approximately $145 million in economic debts owed by the former Republic of Vietnam. " https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/rr1587 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/rr1587