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2005 Israel pulled out of Gaza completely now it is true that there was still many restriction placed on the region but if the citizens of gaza would have tooke

2005 Israel pulled out of Gaza completely now it is true that there was still many restriction placed on the region but if the citizens of gaza would have tooken that time to build their internal infrastructure build actual schools build non-violent businesses etc Israel's continued isolation of the region would have been less accepted by the world. Instead you have decades of rocket launches and using humanitarian aid to build terror networks and other things of that nature To say we've done the same thing over 50 years is naive of the history of the region Hamas in particular has shown that they're only goal is the elimination of the state of Israel they have no other goal So my ongoing question to the people that believe that believe that there is a solution for peace in the region do you believe that the elimination of the state of Israel is on the table to obtain that peace

Aeolun 3y ago
> So my ongoing question to the people that believe that believe that there is a solution for peace in the region do you believe that the elimination of the state of Israel is on the table to obtain that peace Just, leaving and stopping the wonkyness on the west bank would go a long way I think. Stop blockading it, stop faffing around. Recognize the microstate of Palestina. Invade the whole shizzle and actively police it (Iraq style). Like, literally anything but turtle up and airstrikes. Yes, you are saving the lives of your soldiers that way, but you are not making the problem go away, just making it worse. What you need is for the people in the region to believe that having Hamas is worse than having Israel. I’m fairly certain literally everyone in the Gaza strip has lost people to Israel. Never mind that that happened because they were sitting on a stash of Hamas guns in a hospital. Do you think that matters to the children that just lost their father? They’ll just keep hearing that it’s all Israel’s fault from literally everyone around them their entire life. Those kids must _want_ peace, and if you regularly keep bombarding and persecuting them that will always seem like a pipe dream, ergo, joining Hamas and at least getting back at those assholes seems like a viable option. Maybe you’ll die, but then, you might die just sitting in your house, lying in a hospital bed, or anywhere else, so what does it matter?

Aeolun 3y ago

> So my ongoing question to the people that believe that believe that there is a solution for peace in the region do you believe that the elimination of the state of Israel is on the table to obtain that peace Just, leaving and stopping the wonkyness on the west bank would go a long way I think. Stop blockading it, stop faffing around. Recognize the microstate of Palestina. Invade the whole shizzle and actively police it (Iraq style). Like, literally anything but turtle up and airstrikes. Yes, you are saving the lives of your soldiers that way, but you are not making the problem go away, just making it worse. What you need is for the people in the region to believe that having Hamas is worse than having Israel. I’m fairly certain literally everyone in the Gaza strip has lost people to Israel. Never mind that that happened because they were sitting on a stash of Hamas guns in a hospital. Do you think that matters to the children that just lost their father? They’ll just keep hearing that it’s all Israel’s fault from literally everyone around them their entire life. Those kids must _want_ peace, and if you regularly keep bombarding and persecuting them that will always seem like a pipe dream, ergo, joining Hamas and at least getting back at those assholes seems like a viable option. Maybe you’ll die, but then, you might die just sitting in your house, lying in a hospital bed, or anywhere else, so what does it matter?